I’m in the process of degoogling and I’m stuck trying to find a reasonable alternative to Chromecast. It would be great if I could stream music/video from my phone to my TV from apps like RiMusic, Tidal, and NewPipe. Are there any good solutions? Even better if friends and family can use it with minimal additional setup.
Matchstick looked promising but someone killed it. A kaiostick could be nice though
Have been keeping an eye on https://fcast.org/ but haven’t gotten involved yet.
Yesss fcast looks incredibly promising. Sadly the only app implementing it seems to be GrayJay, I really hope it will catch on more.
Since no proprietary streaming service will ever implement this, I wish Jellyfin & PeerTube did.
Macast is pretty cool too. Think it uses upnp or something.
will need to check it out. Thank you for the tip
This looks exactly like what I’m looking for!
Oh neat. Hope it works for your needs. Let us know how it goes.
I’m also hopeful fcast gets some more love. The ability to mirror my whole android screen to an fcast server would be great they have servers for Mac, Linux, Windows, and Android but not a lot of clients.
Grayjay integration works well I use it instead of casting.
There are probably better alternatives, but I have a raspbery pi plugged into my tv and use KDE connect to remote control the mouse and keyboard from my phone. If I wanna watch youtube I’ll navigate to youtube.com and click on a video.
If you get a usb remote you can bind the home button to rofi or something similar to make a quickstart menu for apps and websites you use most often.
Plasma actually has a UI for smart TVs if you weren’t aware, although I have never used it myself so I’m not sure how good it is. https://plasma-bigscreen.org
Nice, I’ll check it out. I’ve been meaning to customize the desktop a bit more but it works well enough for the moment.
I’ve heard that the focus is on the ARM versions (so maybe they are much more developed) but I tried the x86_64 version on my HTPC recently and it was super barebones.
In the end I found Gnome with a few extensions to be a better solution for my needs
Any suggestions about Gnome extensions?
I use Gnome on a 42" tv the only thing I’ve done is increasing zoom level since the couch is a bit far from the screen. In the browser I set up the new tab screen to have big icons that link to some of my bookmarks, using a browser extension. That’s all I’ve done compared to a vanilla setup. I have been using that for a few years with no issues but curious about how I could improve my experience!
Yeah that’s basically what I did too.
I just installed dash to dock and made the icons quite large, then rebound a button on my air-mouse to the super key (to bring up the dash). I also installed Just Perfection and used it to hide the top bar unless the dash is open.
90% of the time, I’m just using Firefox, so I don’t need anything too fancy.
ah cool, yeah I also hide the top bar but I’m using this one https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/ your one looks more flexible I might try
the dash to dock extension looks nice I will give it a go as well
Thanks!
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Don’t think half the comments understand what the Chromecast is…
Interested in finding out more about fcast now though.
Fcast seems pretty promising but it looks like it’s only implemented in Grayjay thus far.
Chromecast is fraud. Use DLNA
We’d love to but there are almost zero Android apps that suport DLNA. You can use DLNA for your Jellyfin but if you want to cast from the app of any large streaming service it wants Chromecast (or Apple TV, which is another quagmire).
Use Kore on phone and Kodi on TV
Does Kore make the Netflix app stream to Kodi?
Even if it does, I can’t exactly make everybody who comes by install an app to be able to stream to my TV. Everybody (who’s on Wifi) can stream to the Chromecast.
How so? It seems like chromecast does exactly what it says it does, even if it’s a suboptimal solution for not being FOSS.
What is does is stupid. You always want to stream the media, not mirror your screen!
Amazon is working on adding casting capabilities to the Matter framework, but at the moment it’s only implemented in the Echo Show and on Prime video.
There’s a litany of them, but the issue is more about what apps will connect to them reliably. The support on apps is really what you’re looking for, as a single app can support multiple streaming targets.
Since you’re talking about some pretty widely adopted apps, maybe look at an Airplay alternative as well, since there’s also a ton of those, and a lot of them are actively developed.
Can you give some examples 😅
Well, I don’t understand your technical wants or needs, but you can Google or hit GitHub and find dozens pretty easily. Look into what Home Assistant is using these days as an easy starter list maybe. Also worth using Raspberry Pi as an included search term to find projects specifically geared for turning an RPi into a Chromecast or Airplay target.
The protocol is called DLNA
DLNA is going to be your best bet, but it’s such a deep and convoluted rabbit hole. There’s a lot of ways to configure a setup.
Or use Miracast, AKA WiDi, Smart View, SmartShare if you just want to mirror a screen.
Miracast is not the same thing as WiDi and anyway it’s just another bunch of competing proprietary protocols except for screen casting instead of streaming.
intel’s WiDi software supported Miracast, which is a standard.
I setup miniDLNA once, many years ago and it just kept working. Downside is that I completely forgot how it’s set up.
I think a few more details are needed to get you a clear alternative:
- Which devices you want to cast from? what content you want to cast (DRM content like netflix, and/or your own media)? what kind of TV you have?
In my case after degoogling, I use mainly apple devices besides my windows pc. 2 of my TVs have AirPlay built in, so there’s no issue casting anything. If your TV is rather recent it’s likely to have it too.
The third TV is tricky, it’s an older 4k LG. I have a linux box connected to it and installed UxPlay in it. It only works with AirPlay “mirroring” so you kinda need an app that can treat the TV as a second monitor. Otherwise the mirroring won’t cover the entire TV screen. I’m still assuming apple devices here, but there’s OutPlayer and nPlayer in the appstore that can do this. It does support sound-only casting, so if it’s music you want it should be able to direct cast from your apps.
The second caveat for UxPlay is that it only works with DRM-free content (youtube, self hosted media). For DRM content I haven’t found a nice alternative for the old TV , so I use its built in apps (netflix, amazon prime). Kodi exists, but the plug-ins support for streaming sites isn’t good, often getting stuck to low-res content.
I’m guessing buying an apple tv/fire stick/roku is the only alternative for DRM content casting. I also explored the idea of “degoogling” my unused chromecast 3rd gen, but absolutely nothing exists for this and it just collects dust in a drawer.
I’ve got a handful of Android-based TVs that I’m becoming increasingly irritated with. Google regularly pushes updates that break stuff. I already have Jellyfin and Navidrome running on my network and can play them on the TV without issue. Netflix et al are also no issue, but being able to stream other sources such as YouTube/NewPipe.
I am not a fan of Apple either, so adding to them to the mix is a nonstarter.
Your best bet is to just avoid the need altogether. I use an nvidia shield with clipious, smarttube, and jellyfin. There is a qobuz app that is okay and a USB Media Player Pro that is pretty bad. I haven’t tried any apps for subsonic streaming.
I’d bet there is a tidal app, but I think tidal also integrates with Plex?
For when I want to “cast” a random video file, I use VLC on my PC and on my shield to stream to the TV, and it works well enough.
I haven’t found a good solution to have similar functionality as Google cast for other people to use, but none of my guests have ever been upset that it wasn’t available.
Apparently there’s something called fcast, but I’ve never tried it.
Jellyfin and self host!
If you’re up for using Jellyfin and have satellite devices, you can check out something I’m working on to achieve this: https://github.com/MattMckenzy/Homehook
The main branch was compatible with chromecast devices, but I’ve stopped maintaining it in favor of the v2 branch, where HomeHook communicates directly with satellite devices through HomeCast.
Let me know if you have any questions about it, always glad to help!
Oh that isn’t quite what I was looking for but I’ve got Home Assistant and Jellyfin already. I’ll have to play with this! Thanks!
