I thought odysee is a better alternative for youtube and offers much more privacy. But it’s not. So disappointed.
Feeling hard to quit youtube because of other platforms doesn’t have much better or quality contents expecially no instance of peertube is truly usable. 🤥
Tilvids isn’t bad
In the meantime you could just keep using third party front ends like Invidious and Piped
Nebula is your best option for now
Or even better piped
This is a solved problem via torrents. Content creators just actually need to create torrents for their videos, and post the magnet links (here, or elsewhere).
That was the idea behind oddysee
Yea but torrents are sketch. Everyone knows that’s how you get malware
Not really, torrents are static data, so people can and do figure out when torrents contain malware, and remove them. Also as long as the content is in a secure container, you’re fine.
Video.exe
Why don’t you just use freetube? Also, check out grayjay.
A platform like YouTube can’t be copied, especially by privacy respecting companies or the community. It’s way too expensive to run.
I suppose we could just replace YouTube with Lemmy communities on the front end and your service of choice (PeerTube/NextCloud, etc.) on the back end. This would at least federate the privacy issues — no one org would get to capture all the user data.
They’re not designed with privacy in mind, but I think one of the best things for video is supporting smaller more independent platforms. Things like Nebula, which is made up of a curated selection of high quality YouTubers who upload their YouTube videos sans advertising, as well as some small amount of unique bonus content. Nebula is owned by its creators, as an added bonus.
Or Dropout, made from the former CollegeHumor YouTube channel, it’s mostly sketch and improv comedy, as well as some D&D play videos.
Neither are privacy focused explicitly, but because of their direct relationship to their customers and lack of interest in advertising, they’re not incentivised to be bad for privacy like the bigger free platforms are.
Dropout has some really funny stuff, but they don’t have regional pricing where I live, so they cost about as much as Netflix and just a little less than Disney+
I’ll totally subscribe if they offer a better price in third would countries.
You don’t have to quit YouTube. I would guess that the overwhelming majority of subscribers here still use it in one form or another.
You can use YouTube with another Frontend. See it as YouTube only hosts the videos.
Personally I have a problem leaving YouTube due to I need to be logged in to get their recommended videos based on my profile.I don’t think anybody else can do that.
Yeah, thats what keeps me coming back to youtube tbh. I know it’s tracking me but for some reason youtube is the one place I like the personalised recommendations. I just use youtube for background noise while eating meals so i like to go to the homepage and quickly find a video that looks interesting because it’s recommended to me.
I we one has to have a balance between privacy and joy. I mean, how much you win vs lose on it. However, I would still like to have the same functionality elsewhere if I could.
Invidious will show you related videos to the one you’re watching but not the suggested tab of YouTube. I see it as a good thing though, I really don’t need another black box algorithm controlling me.
Yes, but I see it as a way of discovering other channels to subscribe to. You can also see it as ads. It is for me entertainment. Instead of searching for game x to watch, I can just see some videos that is apparently popular within this game.
I understand that some people don’t want it. You do want you want.
What makes peertube unusable for you? I’d like to improve my instance.
Less contents, not federated, every video doesn’t have all quality options.
Are you disappointed when there aren’t 360p, 480p, and 720p options available?
I have broadband, so I get annoyed if my video is set to something lower than 1080p. For that reason (and storage space) I disabled those lower resolutions, but I want to know how other users feel.
You’re essentially making it so people with bad connections can’t use your instance
Yes. I feel disappinted because i have only 1GB pet day mobile data. I don’t wish to spend all of it by watching a single video 🙄
I didn’t consider mobile data. Thanks!
You’re welcome.
I don’t know what technology YouTube uses, but I can easily play videos directly on YouTube even with my poor internet speed. However, other front-ends like Piped, FreeTube, GrayJay, NewPipe, LibreTube, and Invidious struggle to stream videos smoothly and experience too much buffering.
Because at youtube scale, they can afford (kinda) to put local cache servers all over the globe and have every video rendered at all quality settings at the same time.
As well as being able to move between the quality settings more or less imperceptibly if the bandwidth changes. Similar to Netflix and Prime.
The answer is simple, they are not the right way so YouTube doesn’t offer them a real way to fetch content. So it adds a first layer of latency for the alternatives as FreeTube and NewPipe (I actually don’t know so much about GrayJay). And after adding a bit of latency, you increase this by going trough a server for Piped, LibreTube and Individious.
I’ve been disappointed by every peertube instance so far. Not going to stop looking. Fortunately the alt front ends I use for YouTube are still working.
I would love if someone could answer this with quick examples. What exactly are people watching on YouTube that can’t be replaced elsewhere? If I’m needing informational content I will generally seek it out in textual format, as it’s painful to sit through a video on that sort of thing. And if it’s entertainment, there are many other options.
I recently watched a 10-hour video essay on Harry Potter. I can only find stuff like that on YouTube.
OK…but why would you do that!? Your life surely would be no worse without that. I get being a fan and all that, I grew up with HP,. I’ve read the books several times and seen the movies several times. HP was a huge part of my upbringing and I bought the books at release. But I just don’t get watching a 10h video essay on it, much less while supporting YT.
Criticizing what someone gets enjoyment from to make an argument isn’t a stance that’ll hold up. Undoubtedly you have something in your life that you find enjoyable which others don’t.
Beauty isn’t the only thing in the eye of the beholder.
If you actually read my comment, you’d see I’m not criticising anything HP related at all. I’m stating I don’t understand it (this is not criticising), especially when it supports YT, but that’s also it. The only thing I’m criticising is supporting YT, not that they watch HP video essays.
I did read your comment a few times, looking for a different tone, to see a meaning perhaps I misunderstood, but I can’t find it.
For what it’s worth, Harry Potter isn’t relevant to any of this besides being used as the example. They could have said Star Wars, pottery, landscaping, or astrology. Their point was moreso, ‘I watch long form content that isn’t found anywhere but on YouTube, and Harry Potter is an example of this content.’
You go on to mention the content in every line of your initial comment, and mentioned the platform only once. They enjoy a thing, you don’t understand how they can enjoy that thing.
Whether intentional or not, I can’t see what you’ve written as anything but a critique.
For posterity, your comment:
OK…but why would you do that!? Your life surely would be no worse without that. I get being a fan and all that, I grew up with HP,. I’ve read the books several times and seen the movies several times. HP was a huge part of my upbringing and I bought the books at release. But I just don’t get watching a 10h video essay on it, much less while supporting YT.
My interpretation, if you care to see it:
Your first line comes off as yelling at the person for their choice of content.
The second line, by my reading, is saying their entertainment adds no value to their life.
The next two attempt to couch the first two by conflating your patronage of the same source material to an in depth analysis of it.
Then the first half of your conclusion line specifically states you don’t understand how they reap enjoyment of watching their chosen content, only to be reinforced by your use of “much less”, which means the first bit of the sentence is what you are primarily focused on.
When I’m doing a long shift at work I like to put one of those really long videos on while I’m working, makes my shift fly by and I don’t have to worry about what’s coming on next.
If you’re not watching it anyway, why choose a medium with video at all? Seems like the easiest thing to ditch YT with that kind of usage where the audio is actually what you’re needing.
Because I want to.
I just wrote a rather long comment to that person and now I’ve realized they are being purposefully obtuse.
You playing the content on YouTube is entirely justified. Lots of people put the news on a television instead of a radio while doing things around the house, because occasionally something visual is referenced or something is said that seems interesting enough to look over at the screen.
Besides, it’s not like the person that went through the effort of putting together a ten hour long essay is going to publish just the audio as a podcast or something.
That person’s an egg head, you enjoy your essays.
Hahah yeah thats why I didn’t bite hard, I dont get it when people are angry that you enjoy something they dont.
Well yeah, but then you also actively choose to support YTs monopoly.
That’s overkill. Shaun’s video on Harry Potter is less than two hours long and tells you all you need to know.
My last few channels I watched: Techmoan, Man carrying thing, Berm Peak, Legal Eagle, Linux Tech Tips, Road Guy Rob, Steve Lehto
I watch on my TV with the smarttube app
My wife also watches similar entertainment channels around arts and crafts our kid watches Blippi and I also use YouTube for music.
It might seem really funny but TikTok is so far YouTube’s most formidable competitor so far.
That’s a good point, now that they’ve increased video length
Download a channel’s entire video list with yt-dlp and create offline YouTube?
Why?
Couldn’t you just use something like Libretube with your favorite piped instance?
There are some QoL perks when you watch downloaded youtube videos through a selfhosted media server (e.g. jellyfin). Video watch progress is saved, and you can watch on all your devices (desktop, mobile, tv).
Sometimes I’ll watch something on my mobile while preparing food, and then I’ll switch to the TV when I’m done cooking, mid-video. This works seamless with that set up.
