• ditty@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    That seems pretty harsh. Also they weren’t rock climbing, it’s a 14 mile hike where only the last 400 ft involves scaling rock using two metal cables to hold onto, and the storm didn’t roll in until they were making their descent. She was 20 years old. Very few people die doing this.

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        4 months ago

        they weren’t trying to be up there during a storm, though.

        A ranger told them there were storms in the forecast

        Ranger literally told them a storm was forecast. I’m sure they didn’t want to be up there during a storm. I mean who the hell does. But there’s a whole lot of personal responsibility to be had here for their situation.

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      4 months ago

      Hikes like half dome and angels’ landing are super dangerous whether or not people die frequently on them. You’re not stupid to do these hikes if you prepare for them, but even if you’re prepared, there is still risk.

      These hikes can get crowded even with the ticket system, and more and more people rush up these trails to get the shot for their Insta or whatever. Two-way crowds of impatient tourists on these narrow ledges and steep scrambles/climbs are a real issue and even a prepared hiker could get unlucky - not to mention other hazards like incliment weather

      The national parks make nature accessible, and because it’s accessible, people underestimate it and don’t respect it like they should.

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        4 months ago

        I’m fairly fit, dabbled in bouldering, etc.

        When I got to the cables part of angel’s landing, saw the amount of people attempting to finish the hike and their relative fitness level, I noped the f out of there.

        I’m not trusting my life with some rando that looks like they have no business doing what they are doing.

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          4 months ago

          Same here. The sheer 800ft. Drops on either sides of of the 2-4ft wide ridge with people coming both ways was a no from me.

          Also even just on the way up the the first landing (the like 500sqft flat area where you can rest) with that 1.5ft wide ledge getting up to it and the rope with 300ft sheer drops- I had a frustrated dad wearing flip flops and a 2 year old kid in a baby backpack rushing by everyone while people were heading down too. Shit’s wild.

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          4 months ago

          Experienced hiker and noob climber here. I did the exact same thing at Angel’s Landing. The route would’ve been easy even without the aid. It’s all the inexperienced people fucking around that made it very dangerous.

          I left Zion and went to Moab.

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        4 months ago

        Experienced doesn’t always mean sensible. Just means lucky enough to not have died until then 🫠

        Good thing her boots were new though!