• hperrin@lemmy.world
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    Of course he’s afraid to debate Kamala. She’s a prosecutor and he’s a convicted felon.

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      Don’t turn off the mics on this debate. Ignore the host. Let Dementia Donnie gas himself out. Let Harris interrogate him of his crimes and put it in public. I wanna see how long he can kee on screaming at the mic for two hours.

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          The thing is he doesn’t to admit to anything. People are going to vote for him no matter what but a small logical percentage could be swayed away from him.

          Catching him in lies and even maybe using that against him in the future.

          But really I just want to see his burnt orange face turn red.

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    Somebody send hima a pacifier and a rattle so he can throw a classic tantrum like the baby bitch he is

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        Yeah, but Kamela has this weird voice where she sounds half drunk. I’m voting for her for sure. But just if everyone fixates on that.

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          She has a Wanda Sykes type voice. I don’t love it, I don’t hate it. I can see how some people wouldn’t like it though.

          That said, she is much b tter than she was four years ago. I think she will continue to improve.

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      Old man doesn’t want to face someone nearly 20 years younger than him. Who’s too old to do the job now, Don?

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    4 months ago

    Trump should definitely wear his extra strength diaper when he takes the debate stage with Harris.

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    He probably is afraid. He doesn’t get a rich people handicap, though. He can’t just pencil in any score like he does when he cheats at golf. As for reimbursement, L to the O to the L on that one. Maybe the GOP should “reimburse” all the people who died from COVID because they listened to Trump’s dumb advice about taking aquarium cleaner to cure it.

    Wasn’t that the problem with the first debate? CNN made it as cushy as possible for Trump while putting Biden at a disadvantage. They didn’t fact check all of Trump’s lies, because why should a news channel report facts?

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      Yeah, I’m pretty sure an unscrupulously fair moderator who can cut microphones and calls out any and all inaccuracies would end Trump. Of course, that would then look unfair, and we can’t have that.

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      Not just that… she’s fucking dumpstered some MAJOR R figureheads in front of congress during her tenure as a senator in the late 2010s.

      Examples (shout out to the Majority Report for having these archived) :

      Harris leaves Kavanaugh speechless

      Jeff Sessions says to Harris her questions make him nervous

      Harris leaves Barr “Stupidly Silent” during congressional hearing

      The only thing that would put a hamper on her ability to do something similar to him is Trump’s lack of care when it comes to perjuring himself on a debate stage. If this was a formal hearing with formal consequences, her ability to make him look bad is much bolstered. On a TV stage where he can just lie and say dumb juvenile things? Probably a little less impactful, but still will be fun to watch.

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        I also recall she landed some really good body shots on Biden in the '20 primaries. They were pretty obviously scripted, but they still hit hard. It’s practically the only thing I remember about her primary run.

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        Pretty much this. Since most presidential debates have abandoned fact-checking for this and the previous election, he’s free to lie, and nobody but the other candidate can call her on it.

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      FWIW, simply being a successful prosecutor doesn’t make someone competent. Harris is competent, but that’s not the reason why she was successful as a prosecutor. Prosecutors have the entire weight of the state behind them, which leads to most people taking plea deals. Even bad prosecutors end up putting tons of people in jail.

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    They should set the debate up the debate like an obstacle course for geriatrics. A ramp to get to the podium. A glass drinking cup with a little too much water in it. World’s lamest Ninja Warrior course.

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        I don’t know what to say. I watched the whole thing and he did far from fine. I still would have voted for him, but it was terrible. My wife had to leave the room.

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            Yes but Trump was terrible in the exact same way he has always been terrible. It wasn’t new.

            Biden was terrible in a way that’s kind of sad to watch, especially for anyone with aging parents. Dude shouldn’t be running the country.

            And again, I can’t stress enough, Trump also shouldn’t be running the country, but in a way that wasn’t new to anyone. It didn’t change any minds.

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              It changed enough minds for Biden to be convinced to hand off his campaign to Kamala, so something good came out of it.

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          Nope, watched the first 30 minutes of it. Unless he had a literal stroke the last half hour. He did fine. Just looked old and tired, which apparently means he did awful in the debate. Meanwhile, trump lied constantly, and didn’t answer half of the questions he was asked. But all anybody talked about after the debate is how bad Biden did, and how he should step down.

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            I think it’s about expectations .Trump has always been llike this, no one expected anything different, but the Biden’s campaign set the expectation of a youthful old guy.

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              I would believe that. I still think the media crucified him unnecessarily after the debate. Plenty of shitty policies to criticize him over. I’m honestly surprised at how quickly people turned on him after most people on here saying he’s old, but he’s doing OK as president and ill vote for him. Makes me wonder if lemmy has the same bot problem everywhere else does.

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                Axios had a good quote on this. “Hell hath no fury like a press corps scorned.”

                Basically, Biden’s campaign and presidency have been constantly telling the press corps that he’s totally fine and spry, which was a total lie they were covering up. It made the press look like idiots, and they were pissed, so they did their job and dug and hyped everything they could find, and everything they had been sitting on, after the debate.

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                  I think it was the perfect storm of sickness/tiredness/anger/and his speech issues that become magnified with any of the above. And he was never a spring chicken, but he has been doing the job just fine, but the media suddenly saw a way to cash in on their constant both sides bullshit and jumped on the “Biden old” train along with the fascists.

                  Is he old, yes. And he should have long since retired, but he is still alert enough to have a conversation with people and make decisions, both of which have been glaring issues for Trump.

                  If anything the media should worry about their constantly giving a platform to fascist talking points and fear of losing revenue because they are “taking sides”. I think reporting on the real issues surrounding Trump and Project 2025 is perfectly valid without needing to “balance” their reporting with something negative about the democratic candidate. It’s actually the job of the press to report the facts, not to always both sides everything to maintain a fake neutrality.

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                Have you noticed that Lemmy is particularly quiet since Biden dropped?

                I’d say a ton are bots and trolls. Just awaiting new marching orders right now.

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            The media is the reason Biden did bad at the debate. I agree with you. Biden didn’t have the best showing, but if you listened to what he said, he made good points and answered questions well enough. He did lose track and mumbled some, which is part speech impediment and part age, but not a new phenomenon. Trump lied about every, didn’t answer many questions, and sounded like an idiot. Yet after the debate no news stations said anything about how shitty Trump was, just how old Biden is.

            I hope him stepping down works out, but the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.

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              the media made him lose the debate, not his performance against someone who did worse.

              I think you are missing how others are critical of Biden’s performance. This debate and election season was a repeat, absolutely nothing new. It was never going to move huge swaths from one side to the other.

              Biden lost to himself, not to Trump. That doesn’t mean Trump’s performance was good. That absolutely was the biggest story coming out of the debate as that was something different from this rerun of an election.

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                That doesn’t mean Trump’s performance was good

                Right, it was terrible and yet it wasn’t called that. No one talked about how pathetic he was. Happened in the previous debates too. The best way to show you have nothing to argue is constantly interrupt others. He did that and got away with it virtually Scot free. In fact it was absolutely shocking how many people equated their performance. “Yeah they both interrupted each other”

                As if Biden interrupting three times remotely compared to the more than 50 times that trump did it.

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                  There was plenty of commentary about Trump but it was drowned out because Biden’s poor performance was different and new making it the trending and newsworthy story.

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              Yep you are right about all of this. Kind of like how in 2020 trump was insanely shitty at debating and talked over everyone constantly, lying 100% of the time. Instead of focusing on that piss poor pathetic performance, directly admitting to weakness and lack of leadership ability, people literally bought the idea that it made him seem strong. Sometimes it feels like everyone is 5 years old

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            You saw the right debate. As I watched it I knew that people would be shallow assholes unable to listen to substance and focus solely on delivery. And to my horror I was entirely right about that.

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      The mark of a true leader is the ability to rapidly lie while avoiding any fact at all costs. /s

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    They should have changes, indeed. Like, before each new topic round, they should show short clips with fact checking the last debates’ statements on that topic.

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    Dementia Don, the racist rapist with 34 felonies is scared to death to debate her. He’s just too old, he can’t even complete a coherent sentence. He really should drop out before she embarrasses him and his cult of morons.