• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    My mother is pretty liberal by my country’s standards, but she is nonetheless religious and I knew deep down all her restrictions “just because” was due to religion. She think I “might get ideas”. It occurred to me that religious people are prurient, or ironically dirty minded. Most kids and people don’t give dirty meanings to things unless you taught them specifically.

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    The hell is wrong with yoga??? It is a awsome self weight exercise and cardio program. Better for you than running.

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      It’s legitimately a religion, the other organized religions don’t like these ancient forms of religion that don’t require payments to participate in, and can be learned for free. It really cuts into their business model.

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      Yoga originated as meditative practice in Hinduism with some spiritual goals that are a bit more than just the more generic “mindfulness” you might find in your typical modern fitness class.

      (It’s also found in Buddhism and Jainism,)

      The physical stretches and poses are great for healthy, low intensity exercise; and meditation is a thing that exists basically in every religious flavor you’d like; so it’s certainly possible to make even a “fundie-approved” version, but eh. Good luck with that.

      Ultimately it could have been lumped into “other beliefs”,

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        Los of churches actually have “Christian Yoga” classes which, oddly enough, is usually just the exercise with nothing religous about it.

        It’s this word thing where they show how something beneficial can work without involving spirituality.

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          I remember way back in the day. middle school late 90’s, maybe. MTG was “the devil” or something, so somebody found us an alternative that involved bible heroes and verses.

          it was a terribly unfun game with a lousy system for winning, and I think I knew exactly one kid who had a deck with it; though he just put the cards over his MTG cards to hide the fact that he played MTG (yes. the pastor’s kid was a really bad influence.)

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            MTG is still the devil. She’s an anti-science, conspiracy believing nutter, and I’m ashamed that I’m in the same state as she is.

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      Don’t try to understand the mind of a fundie christian.

      I’ve heard sermons that claimed “psychology” was a religion. Their problem with yoga is similar. (It has connections to hinduism. At least that’s part of it.)

      A lot of megachurches have classes/programs that are almost exactly yoga, but by a different name. The name they give it escapes me.

      Hell. There are shops on Amazon that sell yoga stuff (mats, balls, shorts, whatever) without calling it “yoga” balls or “yoga” mats so christians don’t feel sinful buying it.

      And yes, they’re just retailers buying yoga gear wholesale (or drop-ship or whatever) and listing it without using the word “yoga.”

      Edit: Googling to find if there’s a common name for the christian version of yoga, I found this god-awful thing.

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        ‘‘Don’t get sucked into this horrible devil religion that Yoga is! Instead, Take My copywriten and trade marked program instead. good news, for a fee we can train YOU to be a certified bottom of the pyramid scheme block so you can teach ‘‘downward facing GOD IS LOVE’’ to your local collection of suckers, saps, rubes, and marks!!’’

    • mPony@lemmy.world
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      I, too, am disappointed by the lack of D&D on this infographic. Plus it needs more Ozzy.

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      The important thing is you have discovered this and are comfortable with that knowledge. That in and of itself is a big deal.

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      Congratulations, sincerely.

      I’ve been on the world since before I can remember. It used to be pretty fun, honestly, but I can tell it’s just eating my soul away bit by bit. Unless something changes soon there won’t be anything left.

      Tap for /s

      Just kidding, I hate this place. I really am happy for you though. It’s not easy.

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      Did religion get you there? I don’t recall anything about it in church. In fact they SERVED alcohol at my church.

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      I understand. I understand that means mo fo me!

      Joking aside, I need to quit, also. Tomorrow, I’ll do it tomorrow.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      *don’t play DnD with a killer DM.

      Unless you’re into that. (I assure you, it’s way more exciting if you let me occasionally kill a character. I promise it won’t happen too often, and it’ll be in the oneshots… which i tune to be challenging.)

      but if you play with a carebear DM… you’ll get fluff campaigns.

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        Killer DMs are fine, so long as they show up with a stack of character sheets and you know what you’re getting into. There’s a D&D variant called “Kobolds Ate My Baby” where you immediately respawn the turn after you die as a new Kobold and charge right back into the mix.

        if you play with a carebear DM… you’ll get fluff campaigns

        Story heavy campaigns with generous rules for resurrection and a focus on social interaction over combat give you more time to engage in high drama. When you’re not worried about a bad die roll ending a character arc, you don’t feel the urge to minmax in order to have fun and can play up the fluffier aspects of the game.

        Perma-Death also tends to mean more when it happens less often. Having an “In Memoriam” game for a beloved character means a bit more than throwing half a dozen alts into a ditch.

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          Yup!

          So, like during Covid, I might have gone a little stir crazy, and built my own little universe with this massive (and tweaked-as-they-went) collection of story arcs. I used stardrifter’s rules

          I touch one of those characters and I’m a dead dm. But they’ve been playing those characters for years now.

          The way I’ve learned to do it is to build some sort of resurrection system in as the game progresses. The one shot style single-night campaigns with fresh characters, those are where I’m allowed to create new and interesting (and usually hilarious) ways for them to die.

  • Mabel [She/Fae/Its]@lemmy.world
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    Don’t forget: Science fiction

    Fast food (and while it’s bad for you, I’m not gonna die from having it once dude)

    Video games (especially Pokemon)

    All of these things were seen as bad around the people I grew up with. But, even my mom realised it was mostly bullshit and let me play Pokemon.

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        Yeah, that one’s a Mormon thing. The rule only covers coffee and tea if you want to be pedantic about it, though there are many ‘spirit of the law’ type people who avoid caffeine entirely.

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        Correct.

        Source: Last Podcast on the Left had an excellent series on mormonism.

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        im an exmo, yeah that’s basically it. The “doctrine” we get that from says:

        And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

        this was “interpreted” as caffeine specifically, probably because the cult leaders didn’t want to give up hot cocoa.

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      Mormons aren’t allowed hot drinks. I wonder if anyone’s made an exception for cold brew.

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      Atheist utilitarian technology professional here. I read tarot. Not because I believe anything mystical is coming through the cards. They just happen to be a very rich and rounded set of symbology to lay out and use to talk through a topic. I have never had anyone walk away from one of my readings without saying “that was more interesting than I thought it was going to be.” Of course my style is very interactive and I involve them a lot as we go. Of course others out there take an oracular approach that’s utter horseshit.

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          You didn’t understand. You seem to think that belief in magic or future reading or some other stuff is necessary to play tarot, but that’s not true.

          You can use the cards instead as a brainstorming tool that helps you direct your thinking into new avenues that you haven’t considered so far. No bullshit necessary.

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            And I go to the Cathedral’s confessional for therapy, my chiropractor for all health ailments, and my life coach and CrossFit trainer tells me joint pain is just weakness leaving the body

            And I’m FINE! Not fucked up at all.

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        “I play therapist by telling my clients they are the decrepit goblin that stumbled into the stinky swamp and ask them if they want to try to get out of it by using the enchanted axe or call upon the great dragon to lift them up.”

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          There’s also a really really old type of rpg similar to DnD that can be played with a rare kind of tarot deck called a Minchiate (97 card deck)

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              Sorry, no link - read it from a library book about card game history.

              From my recollection:

              I do remember it was called “Oracolo” and was played in Italy, normally by family members for the younger kids. It’s part of other “story games” people would play using the bigger tarot card decks especially (something played since Mamluk deck days). You’d basically start a story about how the person is a traveler, and make up the story on the fly based off what you drew from the deck, and the kid would respond as well and then a dice would be rolled to see if they’re successful.

              With Oracolo, the goal was to make it to old age and die peacefully as you go through life. You’d do this by going through the entire deck, with pips being bonuses or negatives that would be used (like, if you had chosen to be a carpenter, and got a 3, then that might be how much furniture you sold and how successful you currently are).

              Every card you passed through would get set aside, with the exception of Death, which would always get shuffled back in if you survived. Death would always be the final card.

              There’s other story games too people would play too. This is where the idea of using Tarot decks for divination came from actually during the Victorian era (as these story games were primarily played in Latin descendant speaking countries such as France, Spain, and Italy).

              My own dad would sometimes play a story game his dad taught him using an old Tarocco Siciliano deck we had (the one that uses cups, clubs, coins, and swords). Although his was a Christian version where the goal was both survive and to go to heaven, and used more as a morality type game.