• MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    While an aggressive attitude won’t change the mind of bigots, a polite and respectful response to someone who advocates for forcing kids to go through the wrong puberty is going to be especially difficult for people with personal trauma for it, and it’s unreasonable to expect it of them.

    I think it’s a reasonable reaction to throw polite discourse out when people use “moderate” as a cover for their bigotry. This is like when “moderate” person said that segregation of black people was reasonable when people were fighting for their civil rights, and that since the moderates weren’t pro-slavery so they were the good guys. No, you’re not the good guys, you’re just not as bad as the super evil guys. Congrats.

    Now I won’t tell you to “fuck off and die”, but I will tell you to fuck off. If you were someone I personally knew, I would have put in the effort to be polite and try to educate you or whatever, but since we don’t know each other it’s unlikely to land.

    I say it as someone who used to think like you.

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      7 days ago

      The difference between MLKs views about moderates in the civil rights movement and not supporting surgeries and drugs for children is that white people were (and arguably still are) actively oppressing black people.

      Puberty is not something that is “inflicted” on anyone. It just happens, it’s part of life. It’s disingenuous to assert that puberty is an affliction , or that someone is afflicting it on someone else. Unless you’re also arguing that birth is an affliction?

      • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        7 days ago

        Puberty is not something that is “inflicted” on anyone.

        It is when we have the safe medication to make it avoidable for someone who would be harmed by it, but “”“moderates”“” are tying themselves into knots trying to find ways to subvert the medical consensus because the existence of trans children makes them uncomfortable or whatever fucking justification they tell themselves.