• josefo@leminal.space
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    25 days ago

    I don’t want to be the guy that advocates for violence, but…

    I can’t understand, in a country so full of guns, that kids are doing active shooter drills in elementary, politicians are not afraid of just getting a bullet to the head for being shitheads. What are your guns for if they don’t serve for the purpose of defending your country from internal threats to democracy. You just have them to kill poor people and minorities or other defenseless people?

    Any other country with that free access to high quality guns would have their politicians afraid of just fucking die. Republicans act as they were invulnerable demigods. They have no real consequences, you have to be a real fucker and inept like Trump to not even attempt to hide your wrongdoings and that just gets you a slap in the wrist and you still run for president. And don’t get me started about the democrats that are just blue republicans and you have to suck it up.

    Again, violence it’s not a first choice for anyone, but how much are you going to withstand before realizing this? Every social victory against class oppression was done through some level of violence against the oppressors, because the status quo dictated they were right and deserved protection from the state, and the oppressed were the ones that got it wrong. You have corporations legally bribing your lawmakers, you even call it lobbying. Corporations are buying your houses, and the little stuff you still have is being taken away from your hands. The SCOTUS takes bribes and has a clearly biased agenda. You don’t even have a fucking justice system that’s impartial anymore. You can’t just vote that stuff out. Sure, vote Biden now, but don’t sit in your houses for another 4 years hoping for fascist to not take over your country the next time. Take actions, real actions. Take the streets, punch nazis, and hold politicians and corporations accountable. Give them some fucking consequences.

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      25 days ago

      I agree they need something to fear. Violence is not the solution, but real consequences would be nice. Not an American either, but from here it’s like, the rich treat everyone else with such disrespect… They avoid taxes and get people murdered and fire communities of people and pollute like mofos and somehow, despite 360 million of you, they’re “untouchable”.

      Words aren’t shit. They don’t listen, but actions are much louder.

      Edit: I post this knowing we have the same problems here, and I’m just as passive. Too busy working and not being homeless to invest the energy to do anything. But I would join a general strike or some shit without question.

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        I don’t know where are you from, but I’m pretty sure that if we had assault rifles at Walmart here, politicians would behave just in case. We had a magnicide attempt that got frustrated because the gun was so poor quality and unmaintained that it fucking jammed. We need to take more action, sure, but I still don’t comprehend how Americans are on that level of passiveness, they literally don’t do anything at all. The bravest ones go and vote, I’m baffled.

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      Any other country with that free access to high quality guns would have their politicians afraid of just fucking die. Republicans act as they were invulnerable demigods.

      Total anecdote, so take the following with the Internet grain of salt that it is.

      I was at a dinner party in the 90s. A Columbia University law professor, by way of long, meandering conversation, asked me (paraphrasing) “Why do you think we, the general populace, are allowed to own firearms?” Uh, I’m just a rural New York bumpkin. I just want to protect my livestock and keep the deer from destroying my small plot of crops. “Sure, JayleneSlide, that’s a great general reason. But in the US, it’s for killing cops and politicians.” 0_0

      So, yeah, clearly not enough politicians in proper fear of the constituency here, despite their willingness to sell us out for the tiniest pittance.

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        Bad people with bad public policy ideas are the people most willing to use violence. Until everyday people feel as if there’s no other choice, it will always be our craziest and our worst that go around shooting people. I mean, look at who has actually been assassinated or attacked in US political history, mostly people trying to make positive changes.

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      No I largely agree with this. If it can happen to JFK it can happen to any of these guys. And it will come to a point if they dont get their act together where theres gonna be organized assassinations of the political class I think.

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      The problem is the side with guns are not the ones trying to change things for the better.

      Most of the gun lovers are for the dictator unfortunately