• carl_marks_1312@lemmy.ml
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    22 days ago

    where do you think these economists get there numbers?. its almost like they get them from the Chinese government. its like giving yourself good grades. that’s why there are these round about ways to try and find out what the real numbers are because you know dictatorships are not that transparent about how they get there numbers.

    Exactly, and you believe that when you read western economists citing numbers they uncritically took them from the Chinese and didn’t do the same calculations as you did, right? Lol

    Chinese government incentivized it with cheap loans that’s why these firms could even get these big debs in the first place. the bubble only burst once they put in rules to stop them from creating so much debt.

    You’re so close to getting it. Communists indeed like to provide housing to people, so yes they made it attractive to build infrastructure by incentivizing their markets to do so. Since they do have their capitalists that also got greedy, they indeed intervened to make that bubble burst to make rent and property cheap for everyday people.

    Russia

    This is a China thread?

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      22 days ago

      they use the Chinese numbers in official declarations because you know its official.

      they made it attractive because they needed something too keep saying that the economy was following the Chinese communist party GDP growth goals you seem to forget that everyday people used property as investment and now there investment is worthless. but hey maybe you just want to wave this away under its just there greedy capitalists.

      its a dictatorship thing. making your economy look better then what it actually is.

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        21 days ago

        they use the Chinese numbers in official declarations because you know its official. that’s why there are these round about ways to try and find out what the real numbers

        that cognitive dissonance lol

        you seem to forget that everyday people used property as investment and now there investment is worthless

        don’t buy property as investment? The sinking of prices is an intended effect. Also the gvmnt forces evergrande to finish building homes tho…

        its a dictatorship thing. making your economy look better then what it actually is.

        I agree that the US is trying to make the economy look better than it actually is

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          21 days ago

          and you where saying i was coping.

          property became a replacement for the stock-marked because the Chinese stock market is very volatile and the property market was only going up that’s why some people had like 3 apartments because they could sell it again at a better price. property became a short term investment and was used like stocks that could never go down.

          okay dude if you think dictatorships are better at transparency that’s not my problem.

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            21 days ago

            Yes your cope is just so good. Here you have a good Bloomberg article on the validity of numbers: https://archive.md/lxpMa you might learn a thing of two.

            property became a replacement for the stock-marked because the Chinese stock market is very volatile and the property market was only going up that’s why some people had like 3 apartments because they could sell it again at a better price. property became a short term investment and was used like stocks that could never go down.

            Yes? I’m not saying this did not happen? I’m saying that because the property market bubbled and the CPC didn’t want it to get too bad they let it burst early and introduced the “three red lines”. Now property prices are affordable again…

            okay dude if you think dictatorships are better at transparency that’s not my problem.

            Implying that we have the same understanding of “dictatorships”