The universe didn’t force you not to believe in magic. You could have spent your whole life believing magnets are magical stones, that the electromagnetic force is magical energy, and that computer engineers are wizards who conjure spirits from magic. And you could have been 100% factually and scientifically correct.

But you chose to believe that magic is by definition not real, because you didn’t want to live in a world of whimsy and wonder. You defined magic as supernatural, in opposition to the natural world. While every scientist knows that nature is just a word for everything that exists. You chose to define magic in a way that it wouldn’t exist, denying it through tautology and not through science.

Why did you choose that?

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    For something to be real to science, it needs to be measurable.

    If magic was measurable, we wouldn’t call it magic.

    Magic, by definition, is not real.

    You could call quantum mechanics “magic”, but we just call it quantum mechanics

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        You are being willfully obtuse. Atheists didn’t choose the definition of the word. Magic is a catch all for things that are not explained by a scientific process. Computing is not one of those things. You don’t understand computers because they are a black box. Therefore it is tempting to call the result magic. But you had better sure as hell hope that the effect of computers are reproducible, every single time, because if they are not, the world as we know it ceases to function.

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            Fucking act like it then!

            It’s cool you have a unique worldview about what constitutes magic and that brings you joy, but stop asking people to apologize for not sharing it!

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              It’s not a unique worldview. It’s a normal worldview anywhere that Christians haven’t colonised the local people’s brains.

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        If it makes you feel better to call things magic, go for it. I, and anyone else capable of logic, will react to you the same way. Every time.