I agree, it doesn’t have to be. But if you want assistance, that assistance can inform you before assisting. You can inject bleach at home, but a doctor doesn’t have to do it for you. Your autonomy does not obligate others to act and it doesn’t prevent them from giving you information.
So yeah, I’m %100 for it still. How exactly do I not understand?
Ok great, then people can commit suicide at home but that doesn’t compel anyone to act to assist them. Looks like my stance is fully consistent with bodily autonomy and your objection is meaningless.
My objection, my objection to what? I think you’re maybe taking the whole “roleplay your username” a bit far. You don’t even know what you’re arguing at this point. You brought up a person wanting to get injected with bleach randomly like some gotcha when everyone here is in favor of autonomy. I agree people should be able to do it at home. Others shouldn’t be compelled to help but they should be allowed to help if they want to. What exactly did I object against?
You’re the one who said “I don’t support any right as an absolute principle.” If anything you seem to be against %100 body autonomy.
I’m the one trying to highlight nuance, you’re the one trying to insist everything’s black and white.
Yes, the “No you are.” I’m in favor of %100 body autonomy, what nuance am I missing?
100% absolute body autonomy would mean consent doesn’t have to be informed.
I agree, it doesn’t have to be. But if you want assistance, that assistance can inform you before assisting. You can inject bleach at home, but a doctor doesn’t have to do it for you. Your autonomy does not obligate others to act and it doesn’t prevent them from giving you information.
So yeah, I’m %100 for it still. How exactly do I not understand?
Ok great, then people can commit suicide at home but that doesn’t compel anyone to act to assist them. Looks like my stance is fully consistent with bodily autonomy and your objection is meaningless.
My objection, my objection to what? I think you’re maybe taking the whole “roleplay your username” a bit far. You don’t even know what you’re arguing at this point. You brought up a person wanting to get injected with bleach randomly like some gotcha when everyone here is in favor of autonomy. I agree people should be able to do it at home. Others shouldn’t be compelled to help but they should be allowed to help if they want to. What exactly did I object against?
You’re the one who said “I don’t support any right as an absolute principle.” If anything you seem to be against %100 body autonomy.