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    2 months ago

    Some things are worth caring about.

    What the people we vote into power do with that power is a pretty big one.

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      2 months ago

      Move the Overton window. You don’t do that by protest no voting or voting third party. Move. The. Overton. Window.

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        2 months ago

        How?

        Vote progressive in the primary?

        Even after the party told a judge they can’t be guilty of bias because a primary is nonbinding and the party can just ignore the results?

        NH was doing that, then they got told they could either break their state election laws or not have their votes counted.

        That’s not a rhetorical question, how do we move the Overton window when the party seizes power from the party and flat out says they’ll ignore results they don’t like if their cheating still prevents those results…

        How are voters supposed to have any say in their candidates let alone moving the Overton window?

        Hell, the party called this primary after what, five states held a primary?

        And one of those literally didn’t count, but the party and Biden still spent a bunch of money to win a “write in campaign” and tried to make it sound like an underdog victory.

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          2 months ago

          Give Dems consistent and overwhelming wins.

          If they win consistently and overwhelmingly they can listen to the more left part of the party. If they don’t have that, then they need to run centre.

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            2 months ago

            Give Dems consistent and overwhelming wins.

            So we can get the presidency, the House, and the Senate?

            We’ve done that, it doesn’t work out as well as you’d think…

            We can’t just keep adding Dems, because lots of them are waaaay more “moderate” then their constituents. Because they’ve held office for decades.

            For a healthy party, we need fair primaries. And we don’t get them anymore.

            A few rotten apples spoil the bunch. We can’t just leave the rotten ones in there and try to outnumber the rotten ones. We need to get them the fuck out of the barrel.

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              We’ve done that, it doesn’t work out as well as you’d think…

              Ah the “Biden had it for 2 years and we don’t have the Jetsons’ life!1! Dems bad!1!”.

              Nevermind that he’s actually doing a fuckton, but dude things take time. They need to win consistently and overwhelmingly. Not just barely sneaking in a win, for 2/4 years of a presidency. Or Obama’s 2/8 years. Or the more sober Omaba’s 4 months/8 years for filibuster proof super majority, and Biden’s 0 months/4 years. That’s why the keywords are consistently and overwhelmingly.