Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

  • shiveyarbles@beehaw.org
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    2 months ago

    I feel like the administration thinks the ends justify the means. Israel is a tactical ally, but at the end of the day how can we not step in and prevent the siege and displacement of innocent Palestinians?

    • Dippy@beehaw.org
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      2 months ago

      Well, if you want a serious answer, treaties. Our treaties with Isreal limit what we can do to them when they do bad stuff.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      From a military and geopolitical standpoint? Yeah… Israel is actually super important. There might have been a time (… decades) ago when we could have allied with a nation that the majority of the Middle East didn’t hate but that ship has sailed.

      It is increasingly complicated because actually giving a shit about the Palestinian people won’t even help those relations. Look up how Egypt and other nations have treated Palestinian refugees. They are largely considered to be criminals and terrorists who will try to overthrow nations (at least some of that is thanks to Hamas being terrorists who will try to overthrow nations). But the best comparison I have seen is “Imagine if a country was committing genocide against the Romani people (again). Every European nation would complain about that and say it was wrong. How many would open their borders to the refugees en masse?”. The genocide of the Palestinians is a useful political tool against Israel but it isn’t like any nations are going to step in to actually protect them.

      And (Israel assisting) Hamas more or less wiping out the PLO and becoming the de facto (and increasingly de jure) leadership of the Palestinian people immediately eliminates any chance at a two state solution for obvious reasons. And a one state solution would largely be a return to the open air prison status quo… unless we wanted to play peacekeepers again and have another decade or two of pointless occupation that just destabilizes the region even more.

      Fuck Biden for his decades of unflinching support of Israel’s genocide. But this is very much a situation where there is no solution.