Edit: I wanted to apologize after reading some of the comments. You raise some legitimate points, I realize that there is a subtle malthusian element to this chart and some of you feel like a burden already. Furthermore, you raise a good point about corporate pollution, oil companies, and how their footprint is much greater than average plebs like us.

That’s 100% valid and I don’t disagree with you at all. My “compromise” I guess would be that continue to apply pressure and protest against large corporations, but in terms of ourselves, just pick a few things you can cut down on yourself, it does not have to be everything on this list.

For example, I really prefer having animal products in my diet, but I am willing to live in a small apartment , car-free, and not go on vacation much in my adulthood. In the same way, you guys can pick what you are comfortable with in reducing and what you do not want to compromise on.

All of us have different standards of living and we are flexible on some things, and some things we are not flexible. That is alright, just consider changing what you are comfortable with, but please do not think you are a burden. Your presence and your life is valuable to me. I don’t like to demoralize people.

  • gelberhut@lemdro.idEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Actually committing suicide would be less effective than having a child, unless you were able go back in time and kill yourself as a newborn. Why? suicide = no kinds, no car, no plane, not consuming of stuff for next XX years etc - much better than just do not have children.

    Right now there are eco-activists which blame and attack other people for using cars and planes and pushing restriction in these areas to fight with the climate change. In few years they will blame and attack people with children and push laws forbidding having more than one child.

    Having on not children is a valid personal choice, promoting/pushing this idea to others for reduce climate change - is not very acceptable.

    • dmention7@lemm.eeEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Slippery slope argument aside, what does having information about the consequences of your choice have to do with how personal the choice is?

      I’d wager most people who are thinking about having a kid have not thought much about the impacts outside of their own personal life, or only about the potential positive impacts. Fact is the world really doesn’t really need more people, and if you’re serious about making a better future for humanity, you’d at least consider the impacts of having more than a couple kids.

      And just to head off any semantic argument, when I say the world doesn’t need more people, I’m saying 8 billion is plenty of humans, not that we should just stop reproducing.