Granted, the rolling release aspect means inevitably you’re gonna get a borked update that you have to revert, so that’s a stumbling point for a complete newbie. It’s not like that doesn’t sometimes happen on other distros though - or even Windows.
People post things like this constantly and I feel like I’m living on a different planet. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a Windows install needing to be reverted through no fault of the user.
I have never used Arch but I have had SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES Windows comppletely fuck up something in my system through updates. Thankfully it hasn’t happened in my latest machine running Win10, but in my laptops one ofthenm literally died trying to upgrade versions, and I had to block ut from ever attempting it again.Nowadayas that same laptop is happily running Mint and testing Fedora.
How? Are you digging around in windows internals trying to do stuff? I mean if so you’d be better off with Linux anyways, but I’m curious how this happens.
I am a sysadmin and believe me when I say that happens. Mostly due to updates.
Within that updates that just plainly break things. E.g. deleting the users files. Or other updates which only break some PCs. (those are fun to diagnose) E.g. if the recovery partiton created by its own installer is suddenly to small. and I also had it more than a few times that Windows pulled in a driver “update” which broke things. One time it even tried to apply the wrong driver! I have now disabled all driver updates trough windows on all PCs I manage.
Rarely PCs also just suddenly refuse to boot, being caught in a recovery loop. After trying two times for hours to find the reason and only one success I don’t care anymore and just restore a working backup in that case. Mind that (nearly) all users do not have admin rights.
On Linux? I had it that release upgrades broke things, but only once several years ago on the PCs where I wait till the official release is made. On my own ones I am often to feature hungry to wait until after the beta, and I know I can fix things.
I had one 12 year old PC where X11+KDE got unstable after a release upgrade, thankfully a switch to Wayland solved this.
Besides that? Never had any issue I didn’t cause myself and never had a running system which suddenly broke.
Granted I do not administer as many Linux PCs as Windows ones. But there are a few, some of them also in the hands of users.
I’ve had more windows updates breaking stuff than I had arch updates breaking stuff, that’s for sure. I think it’s frankly laughable that a paid OS has problems such as that.
There are some updates that broke stuff on Windows. Like that one which broke all those HP printers for a lot of people.
The thing is that it is kind of impressive how little it happens seeing the sheer amount of users. And normally Microsoft is quite quick to release an other update to fix it.
People post things like this constantly and I feel like I’m living on a different planet. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a Windows install needing to be reverted through no fault of the user.
I have never used Arch but I have had SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES Windows comppletely fuck up something in my system through updates. Thankfully it hasn’t happened in my latest machine running Win10, but in my laptops one ofthenm literally died trying to upgrade versions, and I had to block ut from ever attempting it again.Nowadayas that same laptop is happily running Mint and testing Fedora.
How? Are you digging around in windows internals trying to do stuff? I mean if so you’d be better off with Linux anyways, but I’m curious how this happens.
In my old laptop, Windows updates used to cannibalize my AMD graphics card driver literally every time.
I did bork Windows 10 after a big fall update
Also, sometimes Windows can stuck in an endless loop while updating, forcing user to force restart. Consequences may vary…
I am a sysadmin and believe me when I say that happens. Mostly due to updates. Within that updates that just plainly break things. E.g. deleting the users files. Or other updates which only break some PCs. (those are fun to diagnose) E.g. if the recovery partiton created by its own installer is suddenly to small. and I also had it more than a few times that Windows pulled in a driver “update” which broke things. One time it even tried to apply the wrong driver! I have now disabled all driver updates trough windows on all PCs I manage. Rarely PCs also just suddenly refuse to boot, being caught in a recovery loop. After trying two times for hours to find the reason and only one success I don’t care anymore and just restore a working backup in that case. Mind that (nearly) all users do not have admin rights.
On Linux? I had it that release upgrades broke things, but only once several years ago on the PCs where I wait till the official release is made. On my own ones I am often to feature hungry to wait until after the beta, and I know I can fix things. I had one 12 year old PC where X11+KDE got unstable after a release upgrade, thankfully a switch to Wayland solved this. Besides that? Never had any issue I didn’t cause myself and never had a running system which suddenly broke. Granted I do not administer as many Linux PCs as Windows ones. But there are a few, some of them also in the hands of users.
I’ve had more windows updates breaking stuff than I had arch updates breaking stuff, that’s for sure. I think it’s frankly laughable that a paid OS has problems such as that.
There are some updates that broke stuff on Windows. Like that one which broke all those HP printers for a lot of people.
The thing is that it is kind of impressive how little it happens seeing the sheer amount of users. And normally Microsoft is quite quick to release an other update to fix it.