NOBODY wants to have to sit through a multi-hour YouTube video just to install something.
I’m a Linux user with 20+ years of experience who has done LFS, compiled kernels for fun and put together their own mini-distro and I don’t want to install Arch.
That’s not how you teach people Linux. That’s not how you teach people anything, let alone difficult stuff.
Beginners being told to use Arch is like telling a person “you might like some fresh air” and then taking them deep into the mountains, putting them in front of a vertical cliff face and telling them “start climbing”.
Any unsuspecting person bring tricked into installing Arch would be well within their rights to say “fuck you all with a rusty spoon” and then refuse to hear the word “Linux” for another decade.
The worst part is that the install would be the least of their problems. Assuming they have a saint’s patience and make it through, then what? They’re now a complete beginner stuck on a distro for advanced users. Did a 3 hour install make them an advanced Linux user? No, it didn’t. So what’s the point?
Honestly never used tutorial videos. That sounds like a horrible way to learn. So slow and filled with unexplained steps you have to hunt for to understand.
Just follow the wiki it takes like 20min to an hour to get to the desktop based on your comfort and experience with computers. Like 10 minutes if you know what your doing, five minutes if you just want a basic system that boots and connects to the internet.(No desktop).
I used kde on my arch system hassle free for years, I really don’t get the stereotype. If you constantly tinker with your system I get it but that’s true for any Linux system. I also thought having to role a package back was a rare but unique problem for arch until I had to do it on Debian and fedora.
I learned arch out of necessity because at the time no other distro would install on my desktop thanks to poor support for Nvidia graphics and fedora being fedora broke almost instantly after the installer.(I’ve always had bad luck with fedora) I’d say you really have to live with arch to understand how painless it is to use daily.
Gentoo will probably be better if you’re using AUR, and Gentoo recently started shipping binary packages which can be mixed and matched with compiled software. 😄
Who the hell would recommend Arch or even worse Gentoo to new users? They really don’t want this community to grow
As people said above, depends on the purpose that drove person to Linux, really.
If it’s about getting a user-friendly everyday system that just isn’t powered by corporations, certainly terrible pick.
If motivation is to learn more about computers, the way they work, to tinker a lot, then why not.
But by default we should assume the former indeed.
NOBODY wants to have to sit through a multi-hour YouTube video just to install something.
I’m a Linux user with 20+ years of experience who has done LFS, compiled kernels for fun and put together their own mini-distro and I don’t want to install Arch.
That’s not how you teach people Linux. That’s not how you teach people anything, let alone difficult stuff.
Beginners being told to use Arch is like telling a person “you might like some fresh air” and then taking them deep into the mountains, putting them in front of a vertical cliff face and telling them “start climbing”.
Any unsuspecting person bring tricked into installing Arch would be well within their rights to say “fuck you all with a rusty spoon” and then refuse to hear the word “Linux” for another decade.
The worst part is that the install would be the least of their problems. Assuming they have a saint’s patience and make it through, then what? They’re now a complete beginner stuck on a distro for advanced users. Did a 3 hour install make them an advanced Linux user? No, it didn’t. So what’s the point?
Honestly never used tutorial videos. That sounds like a horrible way to learn. So slow and filled with unexplained steps you have to hunt for to understand.
Just follow the wiki it takes like 20min to an hour to get to the desktop based on your comfort and experience with computers. Like 10 minutes if you know what your doing, five minutes if you just want a basic system that boots and connects to the internet.(No desktop).
I used kde on my arch system hassle free for years, I really don’t get the stereotype. If you constantly tinker with your system I get it but that’s true for any Linux system. I also thought having to role a package back was a rare but unique problem for arch until I had to do it on Debian and fedora.
I learned arch out of necessity because at the time no other distro would install on my desktop thanks to poor support for Nvidia graphics and fedora being fedora broke almost instantly after the installer.(I’ve always had bad luck with fedora) I’d say you really have to live with arch to understand how painless it is to use daily.
The path of half the people who try Linux
Windows -> simple Linux -> Arch -> Gentoo -> Windows
I’m currently at Arch and no way in going Gentoo, don’t wanna spend my days compiling, Aur breaks my balls enough
It’s something to think about.
Gentoo will probably be better if you’re using AUR, and Gentoo recently started shipping binary packages which can be mixed and matched with compiled software. 😄