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  • MilitantVegan@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    How do you know an animal abuser is in the room? Don’t worry, they either won’t shut up about bacon, or they’ll make the same bland anti-vegan jokes that were old 20+ years ago.

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      You’re fighting the good fight, don’t worry about the pushback. If you have a choice, regular meat-eating in Western society is one of the most selfish, deluded things a person can do and future generations (if we even make it that far) will look back on those people, myself included, the same way we look at antivaxxers.

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          2 months ago

          Genuine question: how do you see this response as different than rednecks in lifted trucks saying things like “guess I’ll roll more coal for every Prius I see”?

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            Well I ofcourse wont be increasing how much I eat just because of some very vocal random vegans. Just wanted to write an equally belligerent message.

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              Then let me rephrase my question again, how is your original reply any different than rednecks in lifted trucks who say “Well, I’m gonna have to roll as much coal as I can until it’s illegal,” when people point out the direct environmental harm that their cars have on the environment? The effects of the meat industry w/r/t climate change are well-established and indefensible.

              It’s okay to acknowledge that there are some major hurdles for many people with switching to a meatless or meat-reductive diet (I even pointed out that I’m in no way a vegan or vegetarian in my top comment), but your smug response to the very real concerns of the meat industry as “welp, guess I’ve just got to eat as much meat as possible before it’s illegal or kills us all hurr hurr” comes across as incredibly ignorant and conservative. If I’m misunderstanding the message of your reply, please correct me, but I really don’t think I am.

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                A most peculiar phenomenon unfolds. Here we observe the aggressive vegan in their natural habitat. Watch closely as this complex social interaction escalates. Here, the aggressive vegan, a creature driven not just by dietary preference but a fierce moral compass that points invariably to the nearest source of conflict over animal rights. Listen closely to the ranting “Listen up! The vegan empire is taking over! We demand organic arugula and broccoli for everyone—resistance is useless. Accept our leafy greens now! They are the spearhead of a new era of dietary purity!”

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                  Cringe comment that doesn’t even address my points and sounds like it was ripped straight out of Rand Paul-era, TheAmazingAthiest (before he got left-pilled)-worshipping Reddit’s front page comment section. I’m not even vegan and if you’d have read my comment you’d know that. You do seem like a creative writer though, so I’d love to actually read a real response to my above comment from you

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                    Here, we observe a remarkable display: the unhinged retort from an individual uncertain of their niche within the grand tapestry of life. These are the ramblings of what might be termed a ‘Cultura Superioris’—a creature that feeds not just on plants, but on the sumptuous fare of perceived moral superiority. This behavior, fascinating in its complexity, seems driven by an insatiable appetite to elevate one’s status above the fray, nourished by the wholesome food of self-declared virtue.

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      2 months ago

      These kinds of jokes are only funny if there is a kernel of truth to them. But no one talks about bacon unpromted.

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        But no one talks about bacon unpromted.

        Kevin’s wife does. His agent too.

        Speaking of, did you know that my Bacon Number is 3?

        I was in a movie with Henning Mikkelsen > the dad of Mads Mikkelsen > in King Arthur with Ray Stevenson > in Jayne Mansfield’s Car with Kevin Bacon.

        Edit: fixed bizarre autocorrect of “Kevin” to “Levon” 😄

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        I consume the web in 4 languages. Even BEFORE going vegan I saw unprompted meat comments on literally any video/recepie, in those 4 languages, that didn’t have meat on it from vegan/healthy creators. For years. I can bet you 69k tons of my own spit you will find similar comments yourself if you look out for them rn.

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          Yeah, I’m pretty sure these people are trolls.

          But have you every actually seen anyone in real life just randomly talk to you about bacon or meat as a dietary choice out of the blue? I haven’t.

          I think the key difference is that there is hardly anyone that sees eating meat as definining trait of their personality or some moral position. It’s just food and not something you center your life around. That’s very different for a good portion of vegans.