• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    In contrast, your comments which say Biden supports genocide and also saying some additional statements in addition, don’t get the same reception.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/8972976

    What additional statements did I lead with there? Oh yeah, I must be making shit up because you don’t want to accept that saying that Biden should not support genocide - by itself without anything additional - brings out hostility right here on lemmy.

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      5 months ago

      Interesting. What do you think causes the difference in reception between your simple statement and @fiend_unpleasant@lemmy.world’s? I have my theory but I’m curious what you think.

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        5 months ago

        I wonder what the reply to that user said before it was removed.

        I think centrists’ opinion regarding Netanyahu’s genocide has shifted since the deliberate targeting of aid trucks from World Central Kitchen. Tens of thousands of Gazans are dead, and this isn’t the first aid convoy Israel has destroyed during this genocide, but it’s the first one operated by a celebrity chef.

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          5 months ago

          The exchange was:

          fiend_unpleasant: I mean materially supporting genocide is pretty fucking bad

          abcdqfr: It’s almost like this two party system was always a bad idea advised against from the start by George Washington at the inception of this removed.

          fiend_unpleasant: OMG 10000 times this. I have spent so many nights screaming into the dark over this point

          I think centrists’ opinion regarding Netanyahu’s genocide has shifted

          So… now they don’t support genocide anymore, now that the food trucks were destroyed?

          What’s the reason then why they were so hostile to your comment in this thread (which came after the food trucks were destroyed) in a way they weren’t hostile to fiend_unpleasant’s?

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            5 months ago

            So… now they don’t support genocide anymore, now that the food trucks were destroyed?

            No, they still support genocide. They’re just questioning that support now that the dead include the celebrity-adjacent.

            What’s the reason then why they were so hostile to your comment

            Well, one of them was Cryophilia. Search his username in the modlog to see what he’s all about. I’m pretty sure you already know, though.

            Another is you, and we’ve butted heads before.

            I can only speculate about downvotes that were unaccompanied by comments. I already said I thought that they were personally offended. In any event, I was referring to a pattern of behavior I had noticed and that you’re pretending isn’t a thing.

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              You’re not getting the point that I’m making.

              I do understand what you’re claiming is happening; you don’t need to keep repeating it. I’m pointing out that it doesn’t make a lot of sense. When you’re not around throwing bad-faith arguments into the mix that people feel the need to disagree with, we’re all very coherently and sensibly on the anti genocide team. So like by way of direct example here’s me comparing the Biden state department to Nazi-era German businessmen doing business with the Nazis. 17 upvotes no downvotes for the anti genocide anti Biden-doing-bad-things view, from before the world kitchen killings. I could cite some other examples… but what’s the point.

              I have no idea if your absolute repetitious insistence that we’re all maniacs with cartoonishly evil and wrong opinions is because you’re on the clock and it may not be plausible but it’s the best you can come up with, or that’s genuinely what you think, but it seems like leading you up to the point by trying to illustrate by example and ask questions to lead you to the point isn’t working.

              Oh well. I tried. Best of luck with it; feel free to keep thinking whatever you like thinking.