• Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      Because humans aren’t legal or illegal? Because it’s exclusively applied in a us-foreign-policy way to people who resemble a certain ethnicity? Because it’s dehumanizing language that works to subconsciously justify treating them as criminals even if they didn’t do anything wrong?

      It’s language used to criticize an entire group of people out of hand.

      • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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        4 months ago

        I don’t agree with the immigration laws, but breaking the law is a crime… people who do crimes are criminals… is criminal a slur now too? Criticism can be valid. In this case I think the entire group is validly criticized with the term if they are actually illegal residents.

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          4 months ago

          ^ This fascist would’ve called slaves killing their owners “criminals” for breaking the law, and Mandela for “illegally” sabotaging the apartheid government

      • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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        4 months ago

        If a person enters a country illegally… that person is illegally in the country… the person is not a legal resident… they are an illegal alien… the person is illegal. It seems to make good sense to me.

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      4 months ago

      Words become slurs as soon as assholes start using it in a derogatory fashion. It doesn’t need to make sense, it’s just how it is.

      Retard used to be a medical term. Then assholes used it as an insult so it became a slur. Then it needed to change to mentally ill. Now mentally ill is started to go out of fashion.

      The n word used to just be a term to refer to black people, then assholes used it as an insult. Then assholes started to just use the word “black” as an insult so we needed to switch to African-american.

      Language evolves, and assholes ruin things all the time so we have to continuously evolve and change so we don’t use the same words as assholes.

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      4 months ago

      As a rule of thumb, any time you use an adjective about someone as a noun for them it can be dehumanizing.

      The baggage with the word illegal is on top of that.