• Ekybio@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Choices:

    Biden: Kinda meh, has a lot of flaws

    Trump: Literal Fascist Dictator

    “Both Sides equally bad, trust me bro”

    Look, it is pretty simple:

    At the Vote: Lesser of two Evils

    Rest of the time: Organise for Change!

    It should not be that difficult guys, why do we need to repeat this again?

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      6 months ago

      They probably understand but prefer to not vote for the lesser evil out of emotional reasons. IMO this behaviour appears to be similar to people voting for neoliberal far-right parties out of fear and disappointment although it’s completely detrimental to their interests.

      Sadly it’s very hard to persuade people with rational arguments if their behaviour is driven by emotions.

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        Sadly it’s very hard to persuade people with rational arguments if their behaviour is driven by emotions.

        I would like to take concrete steps towards the US murdering fewer brown people. As a trans person things have got worse under Biden (I don’t care about being able to serve in the fucking military lmao).

        For all the fashy rhetoric from Trump (he almost literally demanded a kent state during the floyd protests), the squishy center pretended to care about opposing the government when it was doing terrible things. From my perspective that opposition was clearly all coming from a sense of tribalism, because our government is doing worse things now and we’re getting memes about how baller joe biden is.

        When the Republicans end up in power they’re like the dog catching the car because they have to do all their unpopular stuff in the open and everyone hates them. When Democrats are in power everyone stops caring when they do demonic shit, so it’s full steam ahead with world war 3. Clearly nuance is lost on liberals and they need a BBEG (painted red) in power in order for them to oppose their own government.

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          6 months ago

          I shouldn’t weigh in that much as I don’t live in the US and only follow US politics from a distance.

          I can even very much understand the opposition against the “lesser of 2 evils” notion. Of course I also have emotions (haha) and when I look at the far-right populists in my own country and how the established parties have failed so many people and let the rise of inequality continue… Then I too don’t want to vote for the lesser of two evils.

          But I regularly realise how my emotions misguide me. How I become more blind to the reasons why politicians (even conservative ones) act like they do and that it’s not just out of greed, evil and ignorance. How complicated the world is and how grey instead of black and white. Luckily I live in a country where a respectful discourse between political rivals does occasionally happen and allows me to deradicalise myself a bit.

          If you want to take concrete steps toward the US murdering fewer brown people, the question IMO would be “where do I have the most leverage with my vote?” If you think that voting neither for Biden, nor for Trump does that, that’s perfectly fine for me and it’s your right, of course. I doubt that voting for a 3rd party in the US has any leverage at all but surely I’m no expert.

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            If you want to take concrete steps toward the US murdering fewer brown people, the question IMO would be “where do I have the most leverage with my vote?” If you think that voting neither for Biden, nor for Trump does that, that’s perfectly fine for me and it’s your right, of course. I doubt that voting for a 3rd party in the US has any leverage at all but surely I’m no expert.

            US “democracy” is structured so that most people living in it are essentially disenfranchised. People make a big stink about voting online, but there’s no popular vote, if you live in a “blue” or “red” state your presidential vote is pretty much purely symbolic. If you’re not a white suburbanite basically all of the centrist elected representatives you will have will smile at you, but ignore 100% of what you say.