• PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Since I see “marginalized groups should buy guns” comments constantly on Lemmy, please remember that gun sales bankroll the $18 million per year in “donations” that the gun lobby makes to the very worst Republicans.

    They’ll also use that gun as an excuse to kill you. That’s why they’re pushing the idea of “LGBT extremists” in the first place. It gives far-right fuckstains a chance to claim “I saw a pride pin and a holstered gun and thought they were going to do a mass shooting so I executed them on the street before they could”.

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      6 months ago

      I disagree with this actually. Minorities should be arming up imo, and if you’re worried about putting money in Republican pockets, buy privately instead.

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        6 months ago

        If that worked, America would be the safest country in the world for minorities (and by a huge margin). Instead, every few months a far-right extremist uses their legally purchased gun to kill as many minorities as they can.

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            According to the ADL, there were 40 acts of terrorism attributed to the far-right in 2020-2022. So “every few months” was actually an understatement, but I doubt that’s what you objected to.

            You can follow the link to learn more about who America’s gun laws actually arm. Anyone who supports those laws staying unchanged (or made more permissive) inherently supports selling guns to those people since identifying and disarming extremists is a form of gun control.

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              6 months ago

              So if you actually read the link you sent me, you’d see that:

              1. Firearms were used in 40% of the terrorist acts
              2. Governments were most often the target of the terrorist acts

              So again, I’d like to see a source with proof that firearms are being used in acts of terrorism to kill specifically minorities at a rate of every few months.

              And FWIW, I’m not trying to defend or downplay any terrorist acts by anyone, Republican or not and with a firearm or not. I just don’t think it’s an argument to be used against arming yourself.

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                Firearms were used in 40% of the terrorist acts

                Making them the most commonly used weapon by a significant margin, with arson coming in at only 25%

                So again, I’d like to see a source with proof that firearms are being used in acts of terrorism to kill specifically minorities at a rate of every few months

                Are you sure that’s what you want? Because it looks to me like you’re pretty eager to hold casual speech to rigorous statistical standards (which is textbook sealioning).

                I just don’t think it’s an argument to be used against arming yourself.

                You’d think guns failing to deliver on their promise to save minorities for 50 years would be all the argument you’d need but if you’d prefer to get in an arms race with the far-right, you do you.

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      6 months ago

      it’s real interesting that you said “you” not “us” at the start of your second paragraph. really good preface to the rest of your argument.

      what the fuck industry lobby doesn’t bankroll republicans?

      if they’re gonna kill us anyways, I see no reason not to go down fighting.

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        it’s real interesting that you said “you” not “us” at the start of your second paragraph

        Something that doesn’t seem to worry you when a poster is simping for the gun lobby.

        But this isn’t some ‘gotcha’ moment. I’m not trans and won’t use a sock puppet to pretend otherwise.

        what the fuck industry lobby doesn’t bankroll republicans?

        Exclusively Republicans and nearly exclusively far-right ones? Very few. There’s no need to be rhetorical about it since it’s easy to look up.

        if they’re gonna kill us anyways, I see no reason not to go down fighting

        You’ll likely be dead before you even know the fight started because guns favor the aggressor.

        If you do manage to shoot your way out of it, you’ll be labelled as one of the “LGBT extremists” they’re desperately trying to create and hunted for the rest of your life, endangering the entire trans community in the proccess.

        Fox News isn’t telling their far-right viewers how dangerous you are to protect you.