And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.

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    You’re right, they are. You’d sacrifice everything to prevent the end of democracy, without the recognition that to a significant enough portion of the population if genocide is on the table democracy already ended.

    No, that’s really not how democracy works. It’s not “Democracy unless it does something evil, then it’s not democracy.”

    Democracy is not some good, pure, angelic ideal. It’s ugly. It’s asking people what they want. And oftentimes, people want shitty fucking things.

    According to polling, basically anyone but Biden beats Trump.

    That’s literally not true, and I can dig up plenty of polls which disprove that handily. More pertinently, no one who is running performs better than Biden, except “Unknown Generic Democrat Who Everyone Can Project Their Views Onto” which every minor candidate in the primary wants to convince everyone they are.

    Fuck man, even the NYTimes with Nate Silver is starting to push the idea that Biden needs step down for the sake of the country.

    Nate Silver also pushes ‘Both Sides’. He’s a statistician, not a polisci specialist.

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      Nate Silver also pushes ‘Both Sides’. He’s a statistician, not a polisci specialist.

      He’s a good person to watch to get a feeling for what the people who would make the decision of who to run in the Democratic Convention are thinking. Since that is what matters, and not, you know, democracy.

      I’m curious, do you play board games, and if you do, how do you feel about board games that contain “kingmaking” elements?

      It’s related, I promise.

      Also, I apologize for the earlier insults and claims of bad faith. I strongly disagree with you, but you didn’t deserve those. I’m sorry.

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        He’s a good person to watch to get a feeling for what the people who would make the decision of who to run in the Democratic Convention are thinking.

        … is he? Nate Silver is a statistician without strong ties to the Democratic Party. Why would his opinions influence the decisionmakers in the DNC?

        I’m curious, do you play board games, and if you do, how do you feel about board games that contain “kingmaking” elements?

        Haven’t played any board games in a long time, but I used to enjoy those kinds. I used to play In The Shadow Of The Emperor.

        Also, I apologize for the earlier insults and claims of bad faith. I strongly disagree with you, but you didn’t deserve those. I’m sorry.

        Nah, it’s fine. I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t get heated about politics. It’s one of the things in the world where you absolutely SHOULD be pissed.