He pressed Pelosi on whether the United States has a red line for Israel and whether they “own” the Gaza operation as much as their ally.
“If you don’t like what Israel is doing, and the president has made it clear that some of what Israel is doing he doesn’t like, and you go on supplying them with hardware to do these things you own this operation every bit as much as they do, don’t you?” Sebastian asked the former House Speaker.
you know I wish people would stop pussyfooting around the issue and just come out and say it: the israeli government is committing a genocide in gaza. if they’re worried about being called antisemitic, don’t. they’re calling you that anyway and they throw that word around so much that the word has almost no shock value or meaning anymore.
I think it is possible that Israel could be committing genocide and that you personally sound a lot like a run of the mill anti Semite.
Maybe both is true?
What part of their post was antisemitic, specifically?
I see trolls like you calling anything and everything antisemitic just because it doesn’t full throated support Israel, but never what or why. No clue why…
so you are equating the government of a secular nation to a religion, and that criticizing the actions of that government is the same as being against the existence of that religion.
see I can’t really get upset about this because people with pro jewish only israel agendas have thrown that word around so it means nothing. it’s about as effective as calling a democrat a socialist and communist.
No, I didn’t do that. If you want to have a conversation than you should address what I said.
no.
you tell me what in my post was antisemitic first, and then we will see if I choose to initiate a conversation.
Well its multifaceted.
Your starting position is that people aren’t in unanimous agreement with you because they are afraid Jews will call them antisemites.
You then go on to claim that Jews are already calling us all antisemites so we have no reason to not agree with you.
If not antisemitic, it is reductionist to the point of being mistaken for it, so what did it add to the dialog?
I didn’t say people who agree with me are afraid jews will call them antisemitic. if anything I said. people, people close to and or in power are not being as explicit as I am. and by the way, jews aren’t calling people antisemitic. people who support a pro israel only agenda are calling people antisemitic. that includes jewish people who are vocal about what israel is doing. that’s why that word has no power. and in no way did I suggest people do not have a reason to disagree with me, other than intentionally misreading my comment to try to draw out an argument.
if all of that is beyond you and it clearly is, having a discussion with you would be similar to wrestling with a pig in mud: you end up angry and muddy and. the pig just enjoys it. I choose to not engage.
Piss off hasbara troll
Ahh yes, because the trolls are the ones saying it is possible to defend Israel without antisemitism.
Do you hear how stupid you sound when you suggest nonsense like that?
Genocide would look like carpet bombing Gaza with MOABs
Finding does not really support the Israel is doing genocide claim, but it can be argued that they did commit war crimes. Genocide is much higher bar to clear, but intentionally doing war crimes is arguable. And you’re correct that criticism of Israel alone is not anti-semitic.