• Philo@discuss.online
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    5 months ago

    Asking for a citation gets downvoted? Wow, that is scary. Am I in the midst of a bunch of Luddites?

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      5 months ago

      That’s because your comment is on a post that is literally one of the sources you’d get. More efficiency, overcoming total input, making it a generator, etc are all ancillary.

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      5 months ago

      I mean … the article is literally what it’s about.

      You’re being downvoted because you’re being a cynical contrarian.

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        5 months ago
        1. Asking For A citation is not being cynical.

        2. You Don’t know the difference between cynical and skeptical.

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          Saying nothing will ever work ever and nothing is ever good is not being skeptical.

          The article you’re commenting on is the citation, you’re being cynical and acting in bad faith.

          People disagree with you, I’d wager if you used a little more tact you might have more reasonable discussion.

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            I am not saying nothing will never work, I am saying nothing that is currently being used, trialed, tested, presently or in the past, and the foreseeable future, will not work. That is a far cry from what you are accusing me of saying. I suggest you and a few others should read more critically and with less emotion when you disagree and you might not make such a gross misinterpretation of what was written.

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              Not in our lifetime, nor the lifetime of our children or grandchildren. And it is almost a certainty not to be ever in the lifetime of man.

              Sure sounds like never.

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              This reads kind of like Derrida, or JB Peterson, where it almost seems like the goal is to deliberately avoid communicating in a way that is clear. To paraphrase, “You all misinterpret what I say, not because I’m bad at communication but because you all are.” If one person misunderstands or misinterprets, maybe that’s on them. If everyone does, it’s more likely that it’s on you.

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              I am not saying anying will never work

              “And it is almost a certainty not to be ever in the lifetime of man.”

              Let’s just sliiiiide those goalposts a few hundred more feet huh?

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              Why will a tokamak never work, exactly? We’ve been running fusion experiments in them for 60 years and have a pretty good idea that we can make one big enough to produce power. We’re just baby stepping through the work so we don’t build a $30 billion dollar power plant that’s missing a design element.

              K-DEMO, JT-60, DEMO, CFETR, STEP, and the US DoE’s planned reactor suggest a high level of confidence that the science is already there. It’s just an engineering problem, much like the nuclear bomb in 1935.

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                We’ve been running fusion experiments You work on a Tokamak nd you are unaware of its physical limitations?

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                  Oh ye master of nuclear material engineering, please share what you know so that multiple countries with teams of experts don’t spend billions of dollars for a complete failure. (I worked for an ITER subcontractor numbnuts)