That’s quite the reaction to someone saying “torturing people isn’t actually helpful

And a valid one because no one said a goddamn thing about torturing anyone. I said “punish”. The fact that you’re so blatantly and transparently trying to strawman shows that you have an agenda.

You’re just a manipulative, enabling asshole with the goal of protecting and defending evil people from accountability. You know why it is the chief enabler in any relationship protects the abuser from consequences? Because they, themselves, are abusers too. That’s you, you are the chief enabler. And I do not have the patience for your shit today.