I’ve seen some ‘if you don’t vote Biden you’re giving a vote to Trump’ Democrats touting a ‘secure border’ as being a positive for Biden. Trying to get 1moderates I guess?
As someone not from the US, “securing the border” and “moderate” seems to be a little contradictory unless you want to imply that straight up fascism is the norm.
How do secure borders and fascism have anything to do with each other? We’ve had borders, passports, visas etc. in some form since the dawn of civilization.
If you don’t secure your border, what’s the point of even having one? You can’t just let random people wander into your country undocumented… If you did, it wouldn’t be a country.
We’ve had borders, passports, visas etc. in some form since the dawn of civilization.
Borders have not always been so precisely defined, and the strict, universal passport system we have today mostly came out of WW1
You can’t just let random people wander into your country undocumented… If you did, it wouldn’t be a country.
What is this xenophobic nonsense? As if physical geography, population, culture, and language have no inertia. But more importantly, why are you concerned with demographic purity as your defining characteristic for a “country”? Why is maintaining this segregation important to you anyway?
Fair, I should have stated instead that “the free movement of populations has been controlled” since the dawn of civilization. Usually by guys with spears rather than by means of documents, true. But we live in a time with more freedom of movement than ever before, and the era of WW1 also happened to coincide with large-scale mechanized transport giving more people the option to travel than ever before.
As for the second part of your comment, rather than rise to the standard bait offered on Lemmy (“muh xenophobia!”) I refer you to my nearby comment, surely visible when you typed this one, that details several ways in which uncontrolled population growth has damaged my country.
None of which have anything to do with segregation or demographic purity.
I’m sorry that your government has failed to fund social services and regulate the housing market. I am unconvinced that this is the fault of migration
The DNC bots will always manufacture some existential crisis using fear to get people to vote for their candidate to further there economic agenda. With there not being a democratic primary they have made their choice to risk democracy itself. I will always vote against fascists but don’t shovel me a shit sandwitch and expect me to like eating it. They didn’t even try to give us the illusion of choice between shit sandwiches this time.
If it wasn’t trump it’d be something/someone else. I’ve seen this for the past 45 years. It’s the same every election. The republicans use the same tactic “if you dont vote for Bush the democrats are gonna take your guns away”. Every election recycle and repeat.
Check out a book called Manufacturing Your Consent and you’ll start seeing how your very own consent has already been manufactured.
I’ve also seen this. Gore was one of the most genuine public servants out there (which is apparent when you look at his congressional record), but he was caught in a narrative of “both sides are the same”. I believed that narrative at the time, but it didn’t take long after to persuade me otherwise.
How is it even US ‘liberal’? “Secured the border?” Wtf is this??
I’ve seen some ‘if you don’t vote Biden you’re giving a vote to Trump’ Democrats touting a ‘secure border’ as being a positive for Biden. Trying to get 1moderates I guess?
As someone not from the US, “securing the border” and “moderate” seems to be a little contradictory unless you want to imply that straight up fascism is the norm.
How do secure borders and fascism have anything to do with each other? We’ve had borders, passports, visas etc. in some form since the dawn of civilization.
If you don’t secure your border, what’s the point of even having one? You can’t just let random people wander into your country undocumented… If you did, it wouldn’t be a country.
What borders are insecure?
Borders have not always been so precisely defined, and the strict, universal passport system we have today mostly came out of WW1
What is this xenophobic nonsense? As if physical geography, population, culture, and language have no inertia. But more importantly, why are you concerned with demographic purity as your defining characteristic for a “country”? Why is maintaining this segregation important to you anyway?
Fair, I should have stated instead that “the free movement of populations has been controlled” since the dawn of civilization. Usually by guys with spears rather than by means of documents, true. But we live in a time with more freedom of movement than ever before, and the era of WW1 also happened to coincide with large-scale mechanized transport giving more people the option to travel than ever before.
As for the second part of your comment, rather than rise to the standard bait offered on Lemmy (“muh xenophobia!”) I refer you to my nearby comment, surely visible when you typed this one, that details several ways in which uncontrolled population growth has damaged my country.
None of which have anything to do with segregation or demographic purity.
I’m sorry that your government has failed to fund social services and regulate the housing market. I am unconvinced that this is the fault of migration
death to borders, death to the state
Relevant username for sure
The DNC bots will always manufacture some existential crisis using fear to get people to vote for their candidate to further there economic agenda. With there not being a democratic primary they have made their choice to risk democracy itself. I will always vote against fascists but don’t shovel me a shit sandwitch and expect me to like eating it. They didn’t even try to give us the illusion of choice between shit sandwiches this time.
You read it here first: Trump is a manufactured crisis to drum up votes.
If it wasn’t trump it’d be something/someone else. I’ve seen this for the past 45 years. It’s the same every election. The republicans use the same tactic “if you dont vote for Bush the democrats are gonna take your guns away”. Every election recycle and repeat.
Check out a book called Manufacturing Your Consent and you’ll start seeing how your very own consent has already been manufactured.
I’ve also seen this. Gore was one of the most genuine public servants out there (which is apparent when you look at his congressional record), but he was caught in a narrative of “both sides are the same”. I believed that narrative at the time, but it didn’t take long after to persuade me otherwise.
Because they aren’t liberal policies, they’re leftist policies