• stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    I’m now convinced that a lot of this is trolling. People who say “Well I’m Muslim and it bothers me that Biden supports Israel so I won’t vote for him” have to be completely out of touch with reality or are completely fake. Same thing here–not voting for Biden ensures that Trump wins, and your theoretical third-party person has no chance of doing anything except dilute the vote.

    So? I’m really not buying this narrative or these polls anymore. The respondents are either morons or plants.

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      7 months ago

      Yeah, the people who don’t want to vote for the fascist sending bombs to an ethnostate to kill their friends and families? They’re the out of touch morons.

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        One is a neoliberal that embraces a political philosophy where you turn a blind eye to suffering abroad for stability and prosperity at home.

        The other is a wannabe dictator that repeatedly echos hitler and will lead to civil war where your neighbors, family, and yourself are put at risk of death and the destruction of your livelyhood.

        One of them is more imminently dangerous to the voters who are tasked with casting votes.

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          He’s not turning a blind eye, he’s actively facilitating a genocide.

          Many people are more moral than you and refuse to support anyone supporting a genocide.

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            If there were a viable third option I would vote for them. Being moral in this situation means Trump would get elected and my family would be victims of political violence while that same apathetic blind eye turns away from us. It’s a personal threat to my physical safety if Trump is elected.

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                Yes. It’s not my job to stop all the wars in the world. I’m not going to sacrifice myself for that because it wouldn’t make a difference.

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                    Who says I give a fuck about humanity? We’ve shown ourselves time and time again to do the selfish thing to fuck people over. Guess what? I’m one of them. My selfish thing is “I don’t want to be murdered by terrorists.” There are terrorists over there and there are terrorists next door. Which one is imminently a threat to me? Not the one that is across the planet. But the second Trump gets power, he has said he will not prosecute terrorists.

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                  I’m not asking you to be a superhero who ends all war, I’m telling you that when you support Joe Biden you’re actively supporting a current ongoing genocide that he’s facilitating. It’s not that I’m criticizing you for not doing enough for others, I’m criticizing you for actively aiding a genocide. All you have to do is stop doing that.

                  People who decline to aid and abet a genocide are a better people than people who agree to help aid and abet that genocide.

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                    I don’t support his actions.
                    But I have to vote against trump or else my family and myself will be dragged from our home and shot by radicals.
                    A vote for anyone but Biden is a vote for Trump in my state.

                    I’m working to move away from these radicals but it’s expensive and time consuming and I likely will not be able to do that before the 24 election

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            “Turning a blind eye” - that guy

            “There will absolutely not be any conditions on our aid to Isreal, the only condition is defending isreal” - Biden

            Sounds like he’s got his eye pretty squarely on the prize to me

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      Healthy democracy you’ve got here, where people who have real complaints about the parties of capital and genocide are dismissed as “trolls.”

      How about “fuck you,” supporting israel in any manner should should be automatic disqualification from any possible democratic process. If you don’t accept that you don’t deserve any of the rights described in the bill of rights.

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      People who say “Well I’m Muslim and it bothers me that Biden supports Israel so I won’t vote for him” have to be completely out of touch with reality or are completely fake

      “If you aren’t voting for me, you’re not Muslim, Jack”