Secret Service agents rushed former President Donald Trump off the stage after he fell to the ground at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Loud bangs were heard before Trump fell. Agents then helped him stand, and he had blood on his face. He was yelling back to the crowd and raised his fist. He was then taken to a vehicle and evacuated from the scene.

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  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Sure, but you can NOT be confident that quickly that you’ve completely contained the threat and there weren’t multiple bad actors still out in crowd (unless you actually had some knowledge that they weren’t out there).

    You especially can’t have that immediate confidence if your “perimeter locked by experts” was just wholly violated in the most fundamental way. I’m pointing ought a series of objective facts about this moment for consideration. I’m not talking about chem trails or aliens. You can consider this for what it is and leave it at that.

    This man is a compulsive liar, convicted felon and acts constantly in bad faith to preserve himself and stay out of prison. His only path to that now is the presidency and I wouldn’t put it past him, of all people, (and more likely the fascist think tanks and professional “rat fuckers” that surround him) to stage this play and hurt potentially innocent people to his own perceived personal benefit (like him and this same group did on January 6th without hesitation or remorse).

    You’re on autopilot (assuming as a generally decent person) with the “must dismiss as conspiracy thing” and, you’re not considering the specific man. This is David Pecker’s business partner, he’s literally in bed with the conspiracy printers for decades, they have the actual analytics to know what sells here and he’s literally Epstein’s best buddy… This is a convicted felon, rapist and seditionist. You need to pause and apply thinking to this specific scoundrel and hear him telling you who exactly he is for all these years with consistent dishonest and immoral actions.

    I’m by no means 100% convinced, but this is who would do it and how they would do it if it were staged. Biggest downfall here really is trump’s vanity and not selling the abject terror that everyone knows he would have had, as a documented coward, if this were a real live threat. If he had maybe cried, or crawled, curled up in a ball, pissed himself, yelped, “save me now!” to the agents around him or grab a woman/child in the crowd to use as a human shield… THAT would have been the trump we know him to be in crisis, not fist pumping in front of the American flag donny - his sense of self preservation is just way too developed to do that if he wasn’t sure of what was happening in that moment.

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      4 months ago

      I like the way you roll - let’s see how it plays out.

      But I think we need to be careful to not add lies and nonsense to the shit fountain of same that spewes forth from maga world.

      And yea, every maga accusation is a confession, so we need to pair those up.