This Shouldn't Still Be So Hard
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The video is a critique of the Debian Linux distribution’s website and its user experience, primarily focusing on the difficulties in finding and downloading the appropriate ISO images. The presenter praises Debian’s stability and community but criticizes the website’s design, stating that it’s not user-friendly, especially for new Linux users. The video highlights how the website layout, multiple clicks, and confusing file tree structure can make it challenging to locate the desired ISO images, particularly for the live installer versions. The presenter suggests that while improvements have been made, the ISO download process can still be convoluted and feels like the distribution is not encouraging new users. The overall message conveys a desire for Debian to make its ISOs more easily accessible and user-friendly.

  • jollyrogue@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 year ago

    They’re spot on. I had this thought last week while trying to find an ISO. It’s like it’s a state secret or something. 😆

    Fedora, OpenSuse, Arch, Gentoo, Kali, and Armbian all make it easy to find an ISO or image to get started. The free RHEL downloads are the only thing more hidden then Debian downloads.

      • guillermohs9@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, but there is a point. I’m not a Linux newbie, but sometimes you can get lost looking for the iso file that includes firmware, or non-free, or certain desktop. On most distro’s pages, the big fat button leads to a direct link to the iso file and another to a torrent at most.

        • quat@lemmy.sdfeu.org
          1·
          1 year ago

          While I do agree that the website is bad, nowadays the main iso includes non-free firmware, and it’s the same installer for all DEs.

  • words_number@programming.dev
    0·
    1 year ago

    The webaite could be nicer, but I wouldn’t call that a big problem. Plain debian is mostly used for webservers or by users with at least some linux experience. These won’t struggle that much with clicking the right link on the website.

    • nik282000@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I prefer the Debian website over most other distro’s modern look. It’s simple, like Debian.

      • Gamey@feddit.rocks
        1·
        1 year ago

        I wouldnt call it simple and I definitely see issues with the UX from a actual usability standpoint but I don’t think it has to be modernized or should be simplified for beginners, that’s not the goal of Debian!

  • liliumstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    0·
    1 year ago

    I always thought it was the way it is so that you can still browse it through a text-based browser. If that’s true, is there still room for improving it’s ease of use?

    • nous@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      His arguments are mostly about links to the ISO you are most likely going to want being buried down the page, or after attention drawing elements on the page or through multiple clicks through pages that suffer from these two problems. None of his criticisms are about it being mostly text based or the styling at all. So non of the improvements he suggest will affect text based browsers. So yeah, looks like there is a lot of room for improvement even if text based browsers are the primary focus.