No one should be proud of corrupt court systems and dictatorships.
At this point I think it’s unlikely we’re going to avoid bloodshed in this election - pride is low because a lot of people are fucking terrified… especially with the Supreme Court
(Legal Eagle’s commentary on the recent ruling https://youtu.be/MXQ43yyJvgs )
Our elected leaders betray us for money like breathing, our wealth class uses their power to pillage our commons and coerce ever more exploitative labor using the government that was supposed to protect us from their power as their personal cudgel, and we basically hate one another do to the owner’s media propaganda machine intentionally keeping us divided and misinformed so we can never unite to challenge them.
What, you want we should rally around pride in our nation’s supposedly admirable history? The genocide parts, the slavery parts, non-crony capitalist foreign nation destabilization parts, the state sanctioned union busting parts, or the eugenics parts?
the fact that i saw so many people saying happy 4th on social media was sickening
I’m proud of my country and you will not shame me for it. I’m happy to live in the longest surviving democracy in the world.
We’re watching our government speedrun the fall of Rome and you’re proud??
uh huh “democracy” keep telling yourself that buddy and keep licking that boot.
Obama came out of nowhere and brushed aside the elites, Trump did the same eight years later. (Amusingly, Hillary was the adorned one both times)
I may not always like who others vote for, but, I am damn proud we get together every few years and do so.
Wow youre actually really fucking stupid, literally fist fuck yourself dumbass.
Greater than 2/3 of the people are either “very proud” or “extremely proud” to be American. Maybe not where it was but it’s still a large majority. I’m not in that majority, personally, but I’m used to feeling like an outsider in my own country. I think that’s part of the reason I find it SO hard to stay engaged in the political process in this country. I just have a very different vision for America, a very different idea of what I want America to be than most other Americans. I’m outnumbered and that’s just the way it is.
Not a surprise.
Good. Patriotism goes hand in hand with nationalism, xenophobia, and racism. How could it possibly not?
Maybe if there wasn’t a whole month known as Pride where American Conservatives spend the entire time doing everything they can to demean and denounce an entire large segment of the population, I’d have more pride in America.
Wonder why…hmmm…
I always thought pride is meant for achievement not an accidental birth place. Symbolism seldom helps a society
The corruption began at least with Reagan and continued until it was cemented with Citizens United. Now a large portion of politicians are bought and sold useless, spineless con artists and so many idiot voters eat it right up.
How can I, a citizen of many decades, be proud of a country that allowed itself to devolve so easily and quickly?
Good.
I want out.
We terrorize the world with the threat of military and corporate alignment. We are dragging the world across the point of no return on climate change. We have fewer and fewer rights here while funding genocides. Kids get shot up at schools on the daily while police do nothing. Oddly those same police murder more and more black and brown people each year. Rents are skyrocketing. Healthcare is a goddamn joke. Groceries are ballooning in cost It is commonplace for people to work two or more jobs.
WTF is there to be prideful about at the state level?
Do you mean ‘state level’ as in nation or like the individual states? No individual states are perfect, but a bunch of them are at least doing things you can be proud of at least in a discrete(as in disjointed from the whole) way if you can’t be proud of the whole state.
The State level, like the State Department. I capitalized the word for clarity.
Gotcha, that’s what I would have assumed, but felt like I wanted to ask. Can’t say I disagree with any of that, Federally the US is a mess and it’s why state differences can be so stark and go from places like California, a place that would have like the 5th largest economy in the world if it was it’s own country, to places like Missouri that has significant amounts of poverty that resembles developing world poverty.
There is a ton of poverty/indigent/unhoused in CA too. When you have CEOs and venture capital hoovering up wealth, inequity is in stark relief.
From CA to MO, the inequity might look different, but neither hides it. That’s why CA has had population decreases two of the three past year.
That’s by design
-Republicans
