• chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 months ago

          I’m pretty sure it’s more a distinction between people who focus on personal liberties and especially private property vs collectivism and socialism. Basically lots of people aren’t for right wing fascism but still want to own private property, view their personal comforts more important than necessarily the needs of others (NIMBYs I think count here) etc.

          This could be as simple as not liking property damage in protests, still preferring cars and trucks to public transportation, not liking high occupancy buildings in your area etc, at least that’s how I’ve gleaned it as someone who doesn’t use that kinda label myself.

          I could be wrong, but that’s how it feels to me. Closer to centrist or even just original form of libertarian, which some have labeled as being a bit more left wing than US libertarians.

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            Who decides what property damage to cause? If I disagree with someone can I smash their car windows?

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            yes. thank you for a more nuanced viewpoint. i’d have to agree with your assessment, even if i don’t agree with the principle.

            for me, living in a society requires being part of a collective (in the modern world). i prefer many of the things that the ‘true libertarian’ prefers, but i don’t expect society to provide my selfish desires. that’s why i choose rural over urban. but the suburbs are part of am urban landscape, so if someone wants to live that NIMBY life, that need to make sure their backyard is far away from the other backyards. i realize that is getting harder and harder to do, which is why i dream of a secular society where we can practice a humanitarian from of birth control, because ultimately, a healthy life just isn’t possible when we are crowded into tight spaces. humans need room to breathe and express themselves.

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      Pretending that the police isn’t all bad is a pretty damn liberal thing to do.

      Fuck the police. Each and every one of these class traitors.

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        where in the fuck are you getting that this is a liberal thing? you must be european. these terms don’t have the same meaning in america.

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          where in the fuck are you getting that this is a liberal thing?

          Sorry, did you have something to say?

          these terms don’t have the same meaning in america.

          No, Clyde… liberal ideology is the same liberal ideology everywhere.

          The fact that you are more brainwashed than even the average European doesn’t change squat.

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              Of course she is - unless you want to show me some evidence that she won’t uphold capitalism and colonialism if given half the chance.

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                That is circular reasoning, it’s not the actual definition of “liberal”, even if it is the functional definition of “Democrat”.

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                  I don’t want to know how thoroughly brainwashed you have to be to conflate democracy with utterly anti-democratic concepts such as capitalism and colonialism, but my guess would be… pretty much totally.

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                  I don’t advocate for political racketeers, Clyde.

                  Which part of…

                  I don’t advocate for political racketeers, Clyde.

                  …didn’t you understand the first time around?

                  Where did you get the idea that licking the boots of a bunch of political elites qualify as “advocating” for anything, Clyde? That is… unless you are advocating for licking politician boot?

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      The logical next step is to implement a system that works better than apples; something less vulnerable to rot. Anyone know how to measure merit behind closed doors? Me neither, so obviously complete transparency matters. If you murder someone but I let you decide what officially happened and what the punishment is, are you going to spend the rest of your life in prison? No? You don’t decide that? Well clearly the better system needs external auditing.

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      What is a proper meme anyways?

      In the 90s we had a meme.

      “WAZZZZUUUUPPPPP!!!”

      And everybody did it, as they danced the macarana, and ate that taco bell dog…wait…

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        I’m a 46 yo French dude and still throw an unexpected “Wazzuuuuppp” on phone from time to time just to keep that vibe going. It was as stupid as innocent. An hymn to my past youth and a rallying call for generations to come.

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        Fun fact: chihuahuas probably began as livestock. The Aztecs ate them. I let my Chiweenie know that on a regular basis when he’s a naughty boy that he could easily be dinner.

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          I didn’t know that about Chihuahuas. Guinea Pigs were livestock too, but that’s much less surprising when you see how dopey and delicious they are.

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              I went into a bit of a guinea pig hole and found this other random guinea pig fact:

              In Switzerland, where owning a single guinea pig is considered harmful to its well-being, keeping a guinea pig without a companion is illegal.[66] There is a service to rent guinea pigs, to temporarily replace a dead cage-mate.[67]

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                Honestly, they’re not wrong. Guinea pigs are social animals and live in large families. Same is true with ferrets. You really shouldn’t have just one of either. People treat them like sort of lesser pets to dogs or cats, but they still require their own special and humane care.

                (Yes, I have been reading a lot about Guinea pigs lately for reasons involving giving a teenager reasons to not get them. Or ferrets.)

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                  Get chickens!

                  Like guinea pigs, they are dopey, social, and delicious. Quite fun to watch, actually.

                  Unlike ferrets, they also provide food for you and your family nearly every day. And they’ll offer amazing free fertilizer for your lawn or garden.

                  They are cheap to purchase and care for. And they are pretty self-sufficient and hardy. Cleaning their coop and run is the biggest task (and makes for good compost), as long as they’ve got food, water, and a space safe from predators, they’ll pretty much fend for themselves. And they’ll live a life of luxury compared to their factory-farmed brethren.

                  I was against it until my wife (a vegan, of all people) came home with 6 baby chicks one day. And they’ve really been growing on me.

                  Edit: Chicken taxChicken tax!

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          You’re a weird guy, Mr Squid…

          Most I’d do is grab my cat by the scruff of her neck and say “NO! BAD! Grrrrrrrrrr!!!” and she’d run off with her tail between her legs and a sorry look on her face. Then a few hours later, we would go back to normal and she wouldn’t do that thing again.

          Except for putting her butthole in my face. Never got her to stop that when I first woke up every afternoon.

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        There’s some stupid zoomers who think that macro images are what memes are and they have zero concept of memetic epidemiology. A meme is an idea that spreads via a simple means of expression. That’s it. It’s containerized thought.

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          I would call them niave zoomers.

          Niave means you haven’t been taught something. This is the world they were born into. They cannot understand a world without the internet, nor cell phones.

          Stupid is when you’re taught something, and you cannot grasp it.

          Very few young people seek out concepts they don’t understand, and even fewer seek out concepts they don’t know if it exists.

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              Information being out there, and them having seen it aren’t the same thing. Who taught all the zoomers these things? Did you know that the reason most fast food besides McDonalds has Pepsi and not Coke is because at various times in history Pepsi would buy different fast food businesses, before making them exclusively Pepsi, and selling the brand?

              That information is out there…but did you ever see it?

              Or what about the myth that Coca Cola the soft drink DIDN’T originally contain cocaine, and also didn’t start off as what we think of as a soft drink. It started off as an unregulated medicine for indigestion, with extracts from the Coca plant. But at no time did a carbonated cola with cocaine ever get sold to the public.

              That information is out there too.