Mfer really said “if I’m going down I’m taking my party and my entire country with me” : 💀
Who is funding this push? I wouldn’t be surprised is it was the far right or Russia or a mix of both. They have been doing everything they can to keep the whole conversation on Biden’s age while ignoring everything that the GOP has forced on us.
Apparently one bad performance, a performance that has little to do with the actual job, is enough to get him fired? Yes, yes, I know, he’s stumbled, he’s not perfect, but is anyone? I find the whole response to be sus as hell, and more than a bit racist. One debate and their willing to dump him? This sounds more like a paid attack on Biden fronted by sell out Democrats than a real response. And the rather noticeable lack of suggesting the VP, a black woman, takes over sounds more than a little bit racist. Why not bring Harris up? Give her a bigger more visible role in the administration and the campaign? Show whether or not she’s up for the job? Essential let the American people test drive her as a president.
This is a good bit.
It’s👏 Her👏Turn👏
Biden had a bad debate: faces calls to withdraw from the race.
Trump convicted of 34 felonies: record fund raising.
Biden dropping out could actually lead to Trump’s, defeat is the right person is chosen. If he dies of old age before the election, however, then we may see a landslide defeat.
That said, Trump is just as likely to die of old age at this point, if not moreso due to his propensity to indulge in hamburders and rage-fueled rants.
I guess stay I’m saying is fuck all of this. I’ve never felt less patriotic on the fourth of July than this year… What a fucking shitshow.
Edit: But hey, maybe Biden is right. Stubbornness and self-aggrandizing behavior worked out great for RBG, right?
You’re being willfully obtuse. It wasn’t a bad debate, it was 90 minutes of confirmation that Biden was unfit for office. It was a 90 minute confirmation of what had been dubbed “right-wing propaganda” until that very moment.
It was likewise 90 minutes of confirmation that Trump is unfair for office: a non-stop steam of rambling nonsense and lies. A vote for Biden is a vote for a capable administration to do the actual work while grandpa sunsets. A vote for Trump is a vote for an administration of lackeys and con-man champing at the bit to turn the loot the country and turn it into a Christo-fascist kleptocracy.
If you think a Commander in Chief who is definitely going to betray the country for personal gain is an acceptance alternative to one who might make a mistake because he’s old, you deserve the hellscape you’ll get. The rest of us don’t though.
We know that already, though, about Trump. We have known for years, and people either will or will not vote for Trump - their mind is already made up on kt. The Biden debate performance is a big deal because now we know Biden is not fit for the Presidency any more either, not because he did a bad job at it but simply because he is too old to go on. So now we need to talk about it and process it.
And an old sleepy man with a competent administration is still preferable to an old corrupt man with a Christo-fascist administration. It’s a sucky choice, but an extremely easy one.
It’s true, but it’s not good.
Oh absolutely agreed, but the more discouraged apathetic voters, the more likely the Christo-fascists win. I have no interest in exacerbating that right now.
Seriously. Can NYT Op-Ed run 100% “Trump should drop out” articles every time he does something far more disqualifying? They’ll never run another opinion again.
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Congratulations, you seem to have realized that republicans are backward degenerate wastes-of-carbon.
Biden didn’t have a bad debate. He and his team showed America that he’s had a significant decline in mental capacity and instead gaslit the public and media about it.
Well yeah. That’s just a drop in the long of things that trump supporters think makes him good.
Biden’s facing calls because it’s obvious he’s at the elderly stage where he shouldn’t be leading the country.
It’s because Democrats don’t worship Biden as some Jesus reborn patriot whereas Republicans worship a literally prideful, envious, slothly, wrathful, greedy, gluttonous, and lustful old man as some Jesus reborn candidate.
If they could convince Michelle Obama to run, she would dominate right now.
Just get a monarchy.
We did on Monday.
True true.
Lol no. Gen Z alone will ensure her demise for deleting flavor from everyone’s school lunches under the fake guise of health.
We assume she would cause she has name recognition and the Obama’s we pretty well liked by the Democrat base. However, the issue is she isn’t out participating in unscripted press conferences sharing her political agenda for the future. She could run, but it could also be a disaster. My personal opinion is AOC would be the best choice. She’s proven herself in my opinion, and the right hate her so much that she’d get all the media attention.
The DNC and the American people are once again to blame for the rise of fascism in their own country. They knew Biden was too old to run again, they knew he’s senile, they didn’t try and find another candidate, didn’t rally behind one, didn’t bother to vote for anybody younger.
DNC putting out senile candidate without primaries
must be the people’s fault!
There’s a history here. Back with Jimmy Carter, he had a primary challenge from Ted Kennedy. Carter won, but only by 51% to 37%. He was already having trouble of course, but it was just one more thing that hurt him and got Reagan in power. We all know how that went. So now the general practice is to clear the field for the incumbent if they choose to run for reelection. Biden hasn’t been given any special out.
Trump is of course an odd case since he’s not an incumbent, but his grip on the Republican Party gives him a position near to that of an incumbent. He was always by far and away the frontrunner, and every other Republican candidate was for the chattering class.
Remember the write-in uncommitted thing? Those were primaries.
You couldn’t even be bothered to check. There were 2 other democratic candidates. And there are independent candidates.
So yeah, voters have options, they just don’t want to use them.
A bunch of nobodies ran against biden, no serious contenders.
What made them “not serious”? Did they have shit opinions? Did they forget their lines? Or was it just that they weren’t popular enough?
I bet you it’s the latter. Well who makes people popular? We fucking do. We share their shit on social media. We talk about them on forums, with family, friends, and strangers. We buy their merch and plaster it all over the place. But because the US population was told “Biden’s your only chance”, they rallied behind him.
Not behind some independent with values, with new proposals, with credentials, with opinions of this age, with the ability to stay awake during a debate. No. The citizens of the USA got behind some old fart they were told to.
You are plain amazing
A truly beautiful mind
Post-debate poll showed that majority of Democrat voters aren’t even voting for Biden. They are voting for “against Trump.” Democrats had four years to find a candidate that people would actually want to vote for, but instead they pulled out the 2020 playbook thinking it would work the same.
It’s Her Turn guys Pokemon Go to the polls
ITS HER TURN
Biden’s alter ego is female?
His VP is?
So is Hillary. I guess only OP knows who they mean.
He joking that they’ll run Hillary again.
Other people are guessing the reference is Harris. No idea.
I don’t think she has as good a chance as he does. Biden’s policy has always been on the moderate side of the democratic spectrum, whereas Harris’s has trended true-left or even far-left. Biden will pull more moderates and centrists, the key group in this election (MAGA folks are already decided and anyone who’s even vaguely left is too).
I have yet to meet someone who is analytically deficient enough to think Harris is far left, who’s not also racist enough to think that she’s definitionally far-left due to her skin color.
Prove me wrong
Calling me a racist is harsh and uncalled for. She is indeed, compared to most US politicians, far left. Not talking about global scale. Attached is data from nonpartisan and nonprofit GovTrack regarding her time as a senator. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678/report-card/2019
Kamala Harris
Much credit to this post.
- Under her jurisdiction, in “progressive” San Francisco, 56% of all inmates in SF jails were black, along with 40% of all arrests (Only 5.8% of the population is black). Ignores police brutality, protected 14 of her officers who were caught sending extremely racist text messages. Oversaw San Francisco’s felony conviction rate rising from 52% to 67% in only 3 years.
- As part of her tough on crime approach she assigned senior prosecutors to misdemeanors like graffiti and vandalism, tripling the number of cases brought to trial.
- After a federal judge orders California to expand prison releases to reduce crowding, her office argued in court that if forced to release these inmates early, prisons would lose an important labor pool.
- Spent years jailing disproportionately black nonviolent cannabis users while opposing taking cannabis off DEA’s list of most dangerous substances and literally laughing at the idea of legalizing it multiple times, even as her Republican opponent ran to the left of her on the issue. She then tried to pander by admitting to smoking herself despite prosecuting others, but got her story all wrong. Drug convictions under her office soared, convicting more people of marijuana possession than her predecessor (she also admitted to smoking marijuana) 2
- Laughs about threatening parents with jailtime for truancy. 2. The stories of several mothers she jailed.
- Pushed a law that forced schools to turn over undocumented students to ICE.
- Opposed reforming California’s three-strikes law, which is the only one in the country to impose life sentences for minor felonies and incarcerates black people at 12x the rate as white people, three different times, even while her Republican opponent supported reform.
- Tried to deny a transgender inmate healthcare and endangered trans women by forcing them into mens prisons, leading to the rape and torture of at least one trans inmate.
- Appealed a judge ruling that the death penalty was unconstitutional and won on a technicality, resulting in continued executions.
- Supports the controversial DNA search technique that can be used on people even if they’ve not been charged with a crime.
- Supported the discriminatory practice of cash bail in court, until 2016.
- Protected serial child rapists by refusing to prosecute in the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal.
- Lied about her state’s solitary confinement to block a suit by inmates, claiming there was none in California when there were about 6,400 victims of the practice, which is considered torture.
- Opposed legislation that would require independent investigation of fatal police shootings despite criticism from many civil rights advocates including California’s Legislative Black Caucus.
- Opposed statewide implementation of police body cameras and ignored police brutality, multiple officers raping a teenager, and other officers sharing racist and homophobic messages, despite multiple requests from the public defender.
- Stood by silently as $730 million was spent on moving inmates to for-profit private prisons.
- Fought to uphold wrongful convictions from her office, in one case, she witheld information about a police lab tech who was fabricating evidence (and a judge admonished her for it). She refused DNA testing to prove the innocence of a man on death row. Defended Johnny Baca’s conviction for murder even though judges found a prosecutor presented false testimony at the trial, to which she relented only after a video of the oral argument received national attention and embarrassed her office. She hid evidence of exculpaltory evidence of a man who was convicted solely by one witness (he is still serving a 70 year prison sentence). When evidence pointed towards a black defendant being framed by police, Harris avoided DNA testing to keep him on death row.
- Used a technicality to stop the release of a man serving 27 years-to-life after being wrongfully convicted of possession of a knife under the three-strikes law she supported. When civil rights groups and nearly 100,000 petition signatures got him released after 14 years she took him back to court again for a crime he didn’t commit.
- Protected several of her officers with records of misconduct, by refusing to provide their names to defense attorneys, so that their convictions would be upheld and people would stay in prison.
- “Systematically violated defendants’ civil and constitutional rights” in crime lab scandal. SNBC.](https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/61a1b6a7-05d4-4c9b-9a08-f96972019e69.jpeg)
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- Kept her Orange County DA office from being charged for running an unconstitutional jailhouse informant program they tried to cover up.
- Oversaw a state prosecutor falsifying a confession to get a life sentence and then destroyed the evidence, upheld a conviction secured by a prosecutor lying under oath, and oversaw the framing of another man. The officers were not fired, but the state was forced to pay out ~13M USD.
- She fought against providing compensation to those her office wrongly convicted.
- Sponsored a bill allowing for prosecutors to seize profits before charges are even filed and opposed a bill that would reform civil asset forfeiture.
- Defended a prison’s religious discrimination in hiring policy
- Refused to review a case in which a pharmaceutical CEO killed his wife but made it look like a suicide after their son died under mysterious circumstances as well.
- Refused to prosecute PG&E for its massive gas pipeline explosion.
- Claimed to be unaware of sexual harassment and retaliation by her top aide over a 6 year span.
- Refused to investigate Herbalife’s exploitation and fraud, received donations from people connected to the corporation.
- Refused to prosecute Trump’s treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin, despite his bank’s illegal forelosure practices, which ruined thousands of lives. She also was the only democratic presidental candidate to get money from him.
- A favorite candidate of wall street. Helped raise money with a former wells fargo banker who defended the fake accounts scandal.
- Voted to give Trump increased military spending two different times.
- Supports Trump escalating the war in Syria. Co-sponsored a “destabilize Iran” bill.2
- Supports Israel’s right-wing government and cozies up to AIPAC, co-sponsored resolution against Obama in support of illegal settlements, does not support Palestinian rights, and calls BDS “anti-semitic”. Another Anti-Palestine rant at AIPAC, 2.
- Is against open borders, opposed calls to tear down 700 miles of border fence.
- Fought to limit amount of land indigenous tribes could place in trust and tried to take reservation land away from a tribe just to keep them from evicting a non-indigenous man who had lived there without paying rent for 24 years.
- Mocks the activist call to “build more schools, less jails”. Mocks criminal justice reformers as unrealistic..
- Voted two different times to block federal funding for abortions.
- Wants to use solar panels and green energy… to make war.
- Tells guatemalan immigrants: “don’t come here”
- Appoints a [communication director who was outraged that ICE didn’t pick up two undocumented commentators on M
- Kept her Orange County DA office from being charged for running an unconstitutional jailhouse informant program they tried to cover up.
- Under her jurisdiction, in “progressive” San Francisco, 56% of all inmates in SF jails were black, along with 40% of all arrests (Only 5.8% of the population is black). Ignores police brutality, protected 14 of her officers who were caught sending extremely racist text messages. Oversaw San Francisco’s felony conviction rate rising from 52% to 67% in only 3 years.
The Overton window has shifted so far right that Biden is considered moderate-left and Harris far left.
In any sensible country Harris’s ideas are center-right at best.
Genocide is a far right thing if anything.
When you go either of directions far enough, you’ll eventually meet woth people going the other way.
Hey, please refrain from horse shoe theory stuff in this community
Biden’s policy has always been on the moderate side of the democratic spectrum
This is the guy who was calling for restricting social welfare programs 25 years ago while wholeheartedly supporting Israeli expansion.
He has been anything but moderate
Biden will pull more moderates and centrists, the key group in this election
Says fucking who?
Says an analysis done by me in 15 minutes on a train ride. I should have looked at polling data - despite Harris being further left, Biden is old as dirt. Apparently in ABC and Pew polls she beats him. Should have researched that one better.
If you listen to the Biden press conferences, it is like listening to a preacher try to gaslight you that an imaginary being will come down out of the sky. It’s like… “Biden has accomplished more than any President in the last 100 years, you know he has, we all know he has. Just as I said, and you’ve all seen for yourself. It’s true and you can’t deny it.”
She might be the only person on Earth capable of doing worse than Biden if nominated except maaaaaybe Jeb! Bush
“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make Jack!”
