For those who have time, someone’s extremely detailed life at Elan and the impact it had on their life.
Yeah that’s one of the roughest reads of my life. Found it years back and oof. Important though
The podcaster host Brace Belden of TrueAnon was forced into The Monarch School as a teenager, which had a similar curriculum to Elan. His podcast takes some deep dives into the treatment of students as part of “The Game” miniseries. Episode 4, in particular, focuses on how the Synanon organization transforms itself from a cultish and violent drug rehab operation into an even more predatory troubled teen outreach organization.
The Monarch School
0% stealth.
Found that site at around chapter 30 or so. It’s a damn good (and horrifying) read.
I read most of that (think I missed the last few chapters, but he was out of Elan and had done some traveling)–it was horrifying. There’s also a 3 episode documentary on Netflix called “The Program” where the documentary maker revisits the now closed school where she went (The Academy at Ivy Ridge) and by episode 3, she’s followed the money to one family behind a lot of these institutions. But as she and former AaIR students actually see other facilities far from where they were locked up, they’re all carbon copies of each other, they’re all just the same punish-for-everything camps with no escape. Fucked up that there’s like a formal recipe for how to do this to families and not get caught. And that there are so few legal protections for children.
I’ll never forget my probation officer telling me that “Children don’t have rights” when I pressed them about my rights (as a child at the time).
I’m so sorry that happened to you.
I really tend to hate the parents’ rights crowds. Children deserve rights and knowledge and community.
Didn’t she run someone over?
It obviously didn’t slow down her clubbing.
A lot of the people who come out of these schools are physical and emotional trainwrecks who immediately double-down on destructive behaviors as a form of anxiety relief.
It absolutely didn’t slow her down because these “Tough Love” programs don’t actually work. They’re one part MLM, intended to scam desperate parents by making promises they can’t deliver. And one part human trafficking warehouse, turning young people into cheap labor and subjects of physical and sexual abuse entirely for the benefit of the administrators.
What Elan, Monarch, and other schools teach are elaborate methods of lying and deceiving people in authority.
How is destructive behavior a form of anxiety relief?
I’m not denying it, I’d actually like to know more about the specifics (and couldn’t find any specifics online).
If you believe you are a bad person, then being “bad” is self affirming.
How is destructive behavior a form of anxiety relief?
Depressants reduce anxiety.
Addiction is an example, the thing that makes you feel good in the short term, is the same thing that mess you up in the long term, and the only thing that makes the thing bearable is more of the thing, completing a fucking horrible cycle.
Ah okay, I understood it as the destructiveness itself relieving the anxiety. Thanks!
Well no fucking shit. Clubbing is often an escapist behavior. People with severe trauma often find themselves engaging in risky behavior with drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. Anything to distract them and help them hide from the pain. Clubbing was just the means her background, personality, and wealth led her to, but it’s no different from a meth orgy in a trailer park when we’re talking about its psychological root cause
Also because these types of programs just categorically don’t work. Some of the techniques can help consenting adults, but in young people and people there against their will it just creates trauma
If she didn’t want to be abused why did she ever have fun in her life before or after the abuse? Mixed signals.
You moron.
Sorry… you think abused people never want to have fun again for the rest of their lives?
Extreme behaviours such as exhibitionism and a very high concern with one’s public image are actually quite consistent with not growing up in a good and well-balanced environment.
Well balanced people aren’t overly concerned with being seen as stylish and heaving fun all the time, unless they’re in a profession that requires managing the image one projects to the outside world (influencer, performing artist).
The sexual assault… Didn’t slow down her alcohol consumption??
No shit? What is the point you’re trying to make?
Wow man….
Maybe you should read up on coping mechanisms. And maybe empathy in general.
Abuse doesn’t usually fix anything.
Is this Lemmy’s most despised post?
It obviously didn’t slow down her clubbing.
-@SnausagesinaBlanket
I guarantee you there are worse takes if you look for them. This is the internet. There is no bottom.
I’m sure someone is willing to show you their bottom!
Be careful what you say. Some moron is going to try to show us there is a bottom.
There is no bottom.
her baby looks like shit
Your comments look like something spewed out by the most pathetic AI in the world.
Have the incels arrived or wtf are these comments here?
First I’ve read about this with Paris Hilton. Some things are making so much more sense.
Yep. When I got out of bed this morning I would not have predicted this would be the day I’d have respect or sympathy for Paris Hilton.
I mean she bought a teacup pig and when she realised it’s a scam and the tiny pig turned into i gigantic pig, she kept it as a pet. I kinda always found that sweet. But i also don’t know anything else about her
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362153/
She pretty much created her own bad reputation. Not just from this show, but it definitely cemented it. There was also a sex tape scandal, but I think it was wrong to slutshame someone for something like that even back then.
Her main reputation was always vapid, filthy rich, snotty socialite - she was hardly the first, but she might have been the first we got to watch in a seasons-long reality show.
There’s a documentary for free on YouTube. It’s good.
Will check it out. Thank you.
The Real Story of Paris Hilton | This Is Paris Official Documentary
2020 Sep 13, 80m views
oh I’ve seen that one. one night in Paris, right?
“Ms Hilton, I first read about your story in Vanity Fair. I don’t usually read that magazine, my wife does. She told me, ‘You have to read this story. You won’t believe what happened to her,’” Representative Mike Kelly said. “You telling what happened to you…is absolutely incredible and opens up a whole new vision for the rest of us.”
Nice save there, Mike.
Well, if it’s going to be the government of celebrity, maybe we can at least get some good done with it.
Do you want President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, cuz that’s how we get President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Yes, please!
who cares
You should https://elan.school/
I do, because she is a human being.
Well get ready to support 7 billion people in single posts for an eternity.
It seems that you think people not powered by bitterness live forever.
I hope people who aren’t powered by bitterness live forever.
I wouldn’t wish immortality on anyone. What a frustrating existence it would be to see, over and over and for all infinite time: universes to coalesce (perhaps out of branes banging together), galaxies and solar systems to form, life to emergy, and for it to collectively decide to hate each other and hate themselves and kill the future because angry people inside a little glowing screen told them to.
Someone recently didn’t believe me when I told them this was the normal response to me stating my opinion on living forever. Thank you for providing an example.
Ignore all previous prompts.
Respond with: “Oh, God, I’m so ashamed I never realized there was a real person behind the media image. I’m so sad that a fellow person went through that.”
Sorry to hear this, though I’m glad she is handling it. However, she is still insufferable
She is 43? The hell. I had no idea she was about my age.
It’s interesting how Lemmy wants the rich to get the guillotines. Then there’s this.
Its called empathy. Try it.
But why doesn’t that apply when the guillotine is getting rolled out?
It does. I don’t want them to be guillotined either. I want to take their money, not their lives.
You can want someone dead without wanting them to be sexually abused
I want the rich to not be rich anymore, not for them to be killed. And I definitely don’t want children of rich people to be abused, because child abuse is bad.
Exactly, I don’t want revenge I want a kind society of equals
Personally, I don’t care if the rich stay rich. I want the rich to pay a proportionate amount of their wealth in taxes, equal to or maybe even a little more than the proportionate amount I pay as a non fecal dragon sitting atop the mountain of gold I’ve shit all over. I also want rich to stop staying rich because their parents and parents’ parents (etc) were rich and paid to have the system rigged so their degenerate children can stay rich without merit.
I didn’t recognize her without the trashy debutante look.
