Republicans, universal gun care and state mandated child control, but only after you’ve suffered 9 months against your will to bring them into this world if you even survive the experience.
My standards for my country are incredibly low, I just wish everyone would acknowledge that we are a people who don’t care that our kids shoot our kids regularly.
Instead we have everyone playing pretend it’s a tragedy when it happens despite changing nothing since the last one perpetually a few days ago. Bullshit. Our inaction tells a different story. If we cared, we’d force our government to change it, and considering the severity of the problem, with revolution that’s necessary because anything short doesn’t work. Australia woke up in response to kids killing kids, so fuck this sociopathic cesspool with a cactus for failing to.
Here in America, we consider it normal for kids to kill kids, baseball got boring and we realized Apple pie was too carby, so we spectate our children blowing each other’s brains out. Its who we are, world, balls to bones. Measure us accordingly, because we all know we’ll bullshit our kids that are left into believing there is no problem, so I’m grateful the perverse absurdity of our “society” is being recorded elsewhere. 🤷
repeal the 2nd amendment
The only way to stop a bad kindergartner with a gun, is with a good kindergartner with a gun.
Now in fun colours!
We have too many guns, all you will do is take away guns from people that are not going to do anything wrong, and then make tens of millions of law abiding people into criminals.
I explained why you cant in a concise way and your response is the standard NPC mockery.
Short quips based on American exceptionalism get low effort responses ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its not short quips its unsurmountable facts. It doesnt even start to get into deeper arguments about what people should or shouldnt be allowed. Its literally impossible to take away guns without huge country destroying impacts.
That’s so silly
Its silly if you dont know people with guns and how many they have. I really do think its a cultural thing and you just are not aware of the other people. Cue “I grew up around guns and…”
No, guns are for maiming and killing living things. I didn’t grow up in the bush or in a rural area, so there was no need to shoot anything.
Had my parents raised me around guns in suburbia then I would have categorised them as reckless fuckwits.
Because who in their right mind keeps guns anywhere near children? That’s absurd. To think that’s normal is institutionalised, cult-thought.
Who wants to make a trauma triage for tots nonprofit with me? We can gather former military medics to volunteer their time to teach kindergartners how to triage traumatic injuries and gunshot wounds. This could save lives people!
Just imagine, little Timmy could bleed out if we don’t teach little Sophia how to properly apply a tourniquet!
“Australia Had a Mass-Shooting Problem. Here’s How it Stopped” by Wendover Productions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aGGOK4kAM
Pakistan did this thing where they banned rifles (and basically anything not a handgun) without extensive permits for all new gun sales. Then they offered to buy all the guns, which a ton of people traded in for some cash, which greatly reduced the amount of firearms owned by the public.
It would work great here except there’s a 0% chance the government would want to use money to solve a problem.
Hey, that’s not true. If the problem is that billionaires’ bank accounts aren’t full enough, the government will absolutely run truckloads of freshly-minted bills as fast as they can.
You give us too much credit.
America loves their school shootings. If they didn’t, they would’ve done something about it by now.
Yes, it’s horrible the gun situation in the US.
But knowing how to stop someone bleeding to death can be useful in other dystopian situations as well. Like industrial accidents from bad management and OSHA/child-labor violations. Or non-gun injuries from abusive adults.
Or just stupid stuff that kids and/or adults do to maim themselves, like avocado knife injuries.
Don’t knock the first aid training.
Do go after the guns.
Like industrial accidents from bad management and OSHA/child-labor violations.
Yes, which certainly we’d expect a kindergartener to encounter. /s
If you have a situation in your country where you’re regularly expecting kindergartners to perform first aid, you’ve failed them before you’ve even kicked off the lesson.
Rather than me copypasting a link, you Google
“Child labor slaughterhouses”
and pick a news source that works for you. (Because NYT works for me but might give you a paywall, whereas CNN pops up a bunch of irritating ads for me, for instance.)
The problem is the slaughterhouses hiring children, not that the children working there can’t moonlight as EMTs. 🤦
It was actually cleaning companies that worked after hour and used children in cleaning slaughterhouses. Which is of course terrible and dangerous. (Slightly less traumatic than actually killing the animals but still inexcusable.)
I’m not recommending it. It was what I was referring to as dystopian.
But even in my childish '60s childhood there was a bicycle accident where knowing something to do about stopping bleeding would have helped both the other kid and me.
Having been in life-or-death medical situations since then, it’s a lot less mentally traumatic if you know something you can do and focus on trying to do it right, instead of trying to figure out from scratch what if anything you could do.
Dude we’re discussing kindergartners.
A kindergartener having to even be in high trauma situations in the first place is a societal failing, and one that probably shouldn’t be papered over by giving them first aid training but instead be handled by addressing the reasons why you’re putting so many kindergarteners in traumatic situations in the first place.
Edit: I can see the case for this type of training in young adulthood, but kindergartners? GTFOH
Why I send my kids off with a Browning M2. We ain’t playing
children are better suited for crew served weapons where teamwork and nimble hands mean faster belt reloads.
A lot of Americans do actually support some gun control measures. A lot of Americans also don’t actually know how insanely hard and effectively the NRA has organized and opposed any remotely reasonable gun control measure. They basically ensure that any hearing on the subject is flooded by their members to oppose it. They just go and many sane Americans don’t.
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The ATF has no ability to have searchable records of firearm sales. To run a “trace” they need to use fucking microfilm or manually go through literal shipping containers full of receipts that are scarcely legible due to water damage. [Article]. (https://www.thetrace.org/2016/08/atf-non-searchable-databases/) - Also, measure to apply for funding for the CDCto study the effect of gun control on gun violence: no, because fuck them.
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Measure to impose some reasonable restrictions on the ability to purchase firearms for, say, known domestic abusers: no, because we just don’t fucking care.
I’m not American, but I actually support sane firearm ownership. I look at the lunacy over there and I am almost shocked. I really do think, from hearing about this as much as I do, that many Americans support sane measures. But the NRA is a huge problem. It prevents people from even being educated on this issue.
I am personally against a central firearms data base, but thats for “I dont trust someone like Trump” reasons IE I dont trust some jackboot from causing trouble. But that aside the NRA needs to be dissolved and its leadership drawn and fucken quartered. They have done infinitely more damage to gun rights as a whole than any other organization, combine that with the classism and racism of said oraganization and I can say with compelte certainty that they deserve liquidation.
Fuck the NRA the traitorous Rusky puppets that they are.
I’m going to get all kinds of negative votes for speaking up here. I’m not attempting to defend the various positions I outline below, just to explain why the gun folks see the current situation as the least bad alternative. If gun people in the US actually had their way the laws would be MUCH more permissive than they already are.
Again, I’m not attempting to defend the various positions, only to lend some context (and in the case of domestic abuse, to correct) the talking points above.
If the second amendment is explicitly designed to allow normal citizens to defend themselves against a tyrannical government, then allowing that same government to compile a registry of gun ownership makes no sense. Registration inevitably leads to confiscation, see Australia and New Zealand for recent examples.
(Note; It’s highly suspect that non-military ownership of small arms could effectively fight the US military. Years of attrition in Afghanistan might be the counterpoint here.)
The CDC was examining gun violence statistics in the past, but then ventured outside of the realm of science and into political speech. Most gun people are ok with making science based recommendations determined by facts. But they’re worried that a government entity funded for the purpose of science but controlled by unelected anti-gun bureaucrats will push policy based on politics.
(Note: Any gun policy has some base in science, the question is whether the policy controls the science, or whether science leads the way. Counterpoint: national COVID policy was marginally effective at great cost, both in lives lost and economically)
There are measures to keep “known” domestic abusers from purchasing or possessing firearms. If “known” means “convicted” or under indictment, then those folks are legally prohibited from firearm ownership or possession. This was recently confirmed by a notoriously pro-gun Supreme Court in United States v. Rahimi, by an overwhelming 8-1 majority. Even a restraining order for domestic violence is enough to prohibit purchase or possession.
(Note: enforcement of gun confiscation from prohibited persons is spotty at best, but it’s arguable that this is a problem with policing as the laws are already on the books. The counterpoint here would be the ability in many states to conduct private party transfers without the involvement of a licenced firearms dealer or the requisite background check)
I’m not American,
Then your opinion is irrelevant.
The ATF has no ability to have searchable records of firearm sales. To run a “trace” they need to use fucking microfilm or manually go through literal shipping containers full of receipts that are scarcely legible due to water damage. Article.
Can’t they just scan them? I’ll read article meanwhile.EDIT:
Keyword searches, or sorting by date or any other field, are strictly prohibited.
Th-- wh-- how?!
Right?! I know. It’s so needlessly complicated. When I first learned about this my jaw legit dropped.
I’m not even necessarily proposing a registry but this is just fucking ridiculous.
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We teachers once has a “stop the bleed” training before school started (high school) a few years ago It was very sobering and traumatizing. We haven’t repeated it but we had to learn about using tourniquets, packing wounds, and stopping the bleeding after a school mass shooting. I’m for it led to teacher turnover.
Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Pro-2A, for all who want to bear arms:
Rock, Flag, and Eagle!:
Why did you add a comma between “Arms” and “shall”?
Second Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It is a direct quote from constitution.congress.gov website.
Source: https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-2/
Theres like an old smudge there, but it doesnt look like a comma to me, and I honestly dont recall a comma there when I learned it but that was years ago.
It’s grammatically correct, afaict.
Thanks for the picture!
I can’t believe I screwed up a 3 word quote. Well, time to watch that episode again!
