• gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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      Unlikely. The public and political agendas are just the opposite for the two substances: most people support the expansion of cannabis products and oppose the expansion of nicotine products.

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        safe effective nicotine consumption were generally supported by the public too and was being ingrained in the culture in movies and tv

        now it is combustible cigarettes with alcohol being heavily promoted again as well in television and film

        if the US does not stop voting in senile past retirement age religious right leaning presidents who view any alteration in the citizen’s conscience it might not ever change or get better

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            the synthetic nicotine being produce is done with green chemistry meaning no heavy metals used in synthesis

            with the nicotine being lab made no ground pollutants such as lead and other heavy metals are present just like fake vanilla extract which most seasoning coming from India with polluted soil

            also less soil less environmental impact

            the ingredients have gotten safer over time as well also leading to changes in other industries

            hugely better product both health and environmental and all around

            not to mention not have the ill effects of second hand smoke

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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              None of that has to do with your claim, and it is also more claims instead of evidence.

              Where’s your evidence that there is a safe level of nicotine consumption?

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                Hi, resident drug nerd checking in.

                Nicotine can be consumed safely. There’s a Huberman Lab podcast on it. Nicotine Gum and Nicotine Lozenges are very safe, for example. And less addictive than vaping (note, less, not non-addictive).

                Vaping is safe-er than tobacco. So, it is harm reduction as it’s not carcinogenic as far as we know (contamination aside). However, the vape route of administration passes the blood brain faster than combustion, making it actually more addictive than tobacco and more likely to cause acute overdose symptoms. Thankfully, inhaled nicotine has a very short half life, so laying down for a few minutes generally allows a person to return to baseline.

                And, not agreeing with anything Verdant Banana said about cannabis scheduling. Some tinfoil hat stuff imo.

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                  Safer is not safe.

                  I agree, it’s safer. But how can we know it’s safe below a certain amount for lifelong vapers when there hasn’t been enough time to do a long-term study?

                  Wouldn’t (and I say this as a long-term cannabis vaporizer myself) putting anything into the lungs on a regular basis other than air be inherently unsafe long-term?

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                    Nothing is 100% safe. Which is why harm reduction is an important part of the conversation when discussing drug addiction.

                    Water is safer than tea. Tea safer than coffee. All three can in theory kill you if consumed in large enough quantities.

                    Anyway, I figured I would dig around more on vaping instead of just glancing at the top search result.

                    And, I take what I said back. Nicotine by itself causes cancer. Tobacco just makes it more likely.

                    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9222281/