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    Amazon had also appointed a former NSA director. Actually, it was Snowden’s director.

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      Is it hard to interpret running to Russia has the core benefit of not being extradited to the U.S. almost certainly, or at least with higher probability than any other country?

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      Yes but “pledge allegiance to Putin” is needed for becoming a citizen. He was no longer safe anywhere else.

      He can’t go anywhere that the US has control over which is pretty much everywhere but US enemies

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          Well actually he was otw to south america iirc when the US revoked his passport stranding him in Russia, so technically they were the American Government’s choices.

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          True, but that is part of becoming a whistle blower. Someone had to leak proof of mass surveillance so that we could do something about it.

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    Any online service into which you enter information has the capability to save that information for its own purposes. This includes all the people entering personal or identifying or really any information into “AI” products.

    Given that it’s not even particularly useful, I recommend just not using “AI” if you’re not sure how to protect yourself.

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    I kindly ask for a replacement. Being honest GPT4o is great for redaction, coding, translation, and some other things. It sucks if you don’t have a good technical background. I get this Snowden, but there isn’t replacement…

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    I never did, i think we need to start seeing the bigger picture, there’s this global aganda at play here with big tech and various EU governments and the WEF, it’s like their movement now, and they’re on the same page… the other day I was holding a coworkers Samsung phone and saw a basically useless app installed, it’s name is Global causes I think…

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        My dude, IKEA has an in-house AI model. Every insurance company has one. Subway (the sandwich shop) has one.

        Saying that the NSA “supposedly” has an AI model that can search through data is like saying they “maybe” have a coffee machine.

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          Would you care to expand on this? My impression is that he did what he did out of ethical concerns, and has paid a high price for it.

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            IIRC these are words from the man himself. In a documentary about him, he said he was not a hero, just an ordinary guy, and you should not need to be a hero to stand up and do the right thing.

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            Beyond the point that others have made about Snowden not considering himself a hero, for me there’s two facts that I just can’t get past when it comes to Snowden:

            1. He ended up in Russia somehow. Seems an odd place for a freedom fighter to end up going.
            2. He first contacted Glenn Greenwald, who now spends his days showing up on Tucker’s show to spout straight Russian pro-war, anti-Ukraine Propaganda

            One of these could be a coincidence, but I’ve not seen a lot of double coincidences in my life. It’s funny because I agree that the surveillance program got out of control and needs more transparency, and unlike Tucker and Greenwald, Snowden sounds like someone who truly believes what he says rather than a sleazy liar working for someone else. Emotionally I want to believe in Snowden, but I’m also a strong believer in probabilities and Snowden not acting at Russia’s behest and for some sort of personal reward seems hard to believe at this point.

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              Then rather than engaging in an emotional battle, read the content of his statements and judge their veracity as an idea separate from the man. If motive is impossible to discern from the data you have, you need more data, right? At least if you know what it is that he is accusing the govt of, specifically, will help to determine more of the motivations behind his choice, right?

              I’m not saying read them and believe them, but rather cast your critical eye upon his focus, and then perhaps you can poke holes in his conclusions or discern what, if he’s lying, those lies are meant to achieve

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              “Russian pro-war, anti-Ukraine Propaganda” is when things are actually true and not CIA or state department propaganda

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              1. . He ended up in Russia somehow. Seems an odd place for a freedom fighter to end up going.

              Isn’t russia the only country that accepted him when he didn’t had any others choice ?

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                This is Snowden’s claim and it’s not implausible, but it’s also quite a coincidence that he’d end up in the top country for spying on the US it’s also possible that he wanted to be in Russia and simply made up the part about it just being a stopover. If Snowden was looking for asylum, there are several other countries that don’t extradite to the US. I can see why he’d temporarily be stuck in Russia, but after several years he couldn’t find any other way out? There was apparently a privately-funded attempt to get him to Iceland, but the last update on it was that they were in contact with a “third party representing” Snowden…and then nothing.

                A third fact (in addition to Russiabot Greenwald’s involvement) that makes it questionable is that he eventually applied for Russian citizenship in 2020. One explanation is that he could do this to get a Russian passport and fly somewhere else with no US extradition treaty, but he hasn’t chosen to do so yet.

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                  Russia are the good guys, we are like comically evil. We couped ukraine in 2014orchestrated euromaidan and got them to shell russian civilians in the 2 independent republics. we built 13 CIA bases in ukraine (per wapo). loaded them with NATO weapons and training, including of neo nazi battallions like right sector, azov brigade and tornado batallion. fast forward to now, and 800,000+ ukranians are dead and the ukranian SBU which is 100% controlled by the CIA attempts weekly acts of terrorism against russia. on the grand scheme of things THE PLAN FAILED!! https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

                  it even goes back earlier than that as we supported Banderaism after WW2 https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/operation-anyface-how-us-army-shielded-ukrainian-nationalist-soviet-intelligence

                  if hollywood portrayed what the US does it would be deemed unrealistic because of how comically evil it is

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                  If you read any of his memoirs or interviews, you’d know that his intended destination was Ecuador, and he couldn’t fly out of Russia due to his passport being revoked. He lived in the Russian airport until he was granted asylum, so it’s not like he had much choice.

                  I didn’t see any sources that went against those claims except from WikiLeaks, so I don’t see much of a reason to discredit them.

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                No, he was literally trapped there on a flight stopover trying to get from Hong-kong to Equador without passing airports in countires that would have arrested him. Russia was probably one of the countries he was least interested in staying.

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                Well, this is what I thought too. Also, any other country under US influence would have handed him over to the US. See the saga that poor Assange has gone through. What worries me is that public opinion is rather silent to stories like those of Assange and Snowden. Whistle blowing should be seen as a right. If the organization I work for is ethically and morally misbehaving, I have the right to blow the whistle through the right internal channels to start with. If nobody listens, then you take it to the next level.

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                  Also, any other country under US influence would have handed him over to the US

                  You’re exactly right. I wish for every USA’s influenced countries to get their sovereignity back somehow.

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          I’m pretty sure they were referring to the user who shared the full quote, not Snowden himself.

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        X requires login to view tweets, and can only get away with this because they tricked users into believing they’d allow free access while they were growing as a platform. Let’s not do anything to help them.

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        I think you need to take a break and get some perspective.

        Besides, the Twitter link was already posted by the OP, why would it need to be posted again?

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          I think you need to take a break and get some perspective.

          Besides, the Twitter link was already posted by the OP, why would it need to be posted again?

          Posting exTwitter links without a screenshot in a privacy community feels like a kind of oxymoron to me, especially after exTwitter made API changes and what not which made third party apps and software like Nitter kind of useless.

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    Snowden is wrong though, there are two reasons:

    1. Sell ChatGPT to @NSAGov so they can scan messages better
    2. Make @NSAGov dependant on whatever ChatGPT tells them to do

    The AI that ends up enslaving humanity, will start by convincing the people in charge of turning it off, that it would be a really bad idea to turn it off.

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      Local AI will be harvested - if not today, then as soon as tomorrow. I recommend not trusting any system like this with any sensitive information… Or, honestly, with most non-sensitive information.

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        If you connect it to the Internet then sure it can be easily harvested by large companies. Pretty sure you can host an offline AI in a device you have made sure the hardware isn’t gonna be phoning home and it’ll probably be fairly safe if you aren’t an idiot like me and actually know what you’re doing.

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        When people say Local AI, they mean things like the Free / Open Source Ollama (https://github.com/ollama/ollama/), which you can read the source code for and check it doesn’t have anything to phone home, and you can completely control when and if you upgrade it. If you don’t like something in the code base, you can also fork it and start your own version. The actual models (e.g. Mistral is a popular one) used with Ollama are commonly represented in GGML format, which doesn’t even carry executable code - only massive multi-dimensional arrays of numbers (tensors) that represent the parameters of the LLM.

        Now not trusting that the output is correct is reasonable. But in terms of trusting the software not to spy on you when it is FOSS, it would be no different to whether you trust other FOSS software not to spy on you (e.g. the Linux kernel, etc…). Now that is a risk to an extent if there is an xz style attack on a code base, but I don’t think the risks are materially different for ‘AI’ compared to any other software.

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      Is there a magazine or site that breaks this down for the less tech savvy? And is the quality of the AI on par?

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      Mate, please be kind and help a fellow brother with that…

      For example I need a tool that will “automagically” sort all my documents, photos and videos on premises.

      Thank you!

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          Just fackin’ sort it ooouuttt!

          Edit, but seriously sorting in most scenarios is just by date created or name, which most file explorers can do.

          That Isn’t generally an AI task.

          If OP wants the AI to read the file and sort by colour for example, then this is maybe an AI task but sounds more like a software task.

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            Scenario time: A loved one has recently passed away, and I want to find all the photos I have of them. I would love to be able to have a local AI perform facial recognition to help me find these photos. The classification and tagging info doesn’t get fed into surveillance capitalist garbage, and I’m still able to benefit.

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              Mate, something like Immich or digikam (if you want local) will do a good job at this. Not perfect but perfection is utopia. I fed 40k images to Immich and it did a reasonable job in not too many hrs.

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              scenario time: you haven’t taken 40 thousand pictures over the last three years because you aren’t cripplingly addicted to technology so you can sort through them manually in about 10 hours or so.

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                There’s no reason to judge someone for taking many photos. If you’re not willing to help, you don’t have to. There’s no need to write sarcastic comments.

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                You’re proposing to waste 10 hours sorting photos when the right tool could probably do it in less than 2 minutes? What?

                And how does taking pictures translate to being addicted to tech?? We’ve had photography for over 100 years

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        An LLM like Ollama won’t help with that. Something like Photoprism could, it uses ML to automatically tag media and recognize people.

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    Hmm… seems Vladimir Putin doesn’t like ChatGPT enough to have his sock puppet write some negative comments about it.