Of course. Shouldn’t need to be said, but here we are
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They’re the same picture
Uh, who’s standing for either one of those besides fucking shitheads?
Op is totally not a propagandist. Just memes he likes
In my opinion leftists should create a Zionist symbol to separate Israel(the state) from Jewish people.
If they can convey the separation of the two for normies that would help their rhetoric game massively. (Israel ≠ Jewish people)
I stand by all effort to deny fascists the luxury of an effective narrative (Israel=Jewish people)
I mean the girl with the poster with the trash bin clearly put the Israeli flag in it, not just the star of David. If that’s going to be called antisemetic then there’s no symbol you can really use without getting called antisemetic for it.
yeah and the other protest one has the american flag in the middle so it to points to governments. I mean the graffitti at the top is not necessarily related to protests at all. You can always find shitty graffiti. Im sure I could walk around the city and within an hour find something with fag written somewhere.
That being said, using “the final solution” in that context does not look good.
at best, it portrays a comical unawareness of history. At worst, this person is one of the “Hamas, Hamas, Jews into the gas” yellers.
I vote for Israeli Flag with a swastika in the middle. Or is that a little unsubtle?
I concur. It would help combat the default response of “yOu’Re An AnTiSeMiTe!” to any criticism of Israels policies or its shithead leaders.
Huh? The flag of Israel already does not mean all Jews. It’s a state, not an ethnicity or religion
There is no symbol that can realistically do this. The symbol is just the vessel, and it’s subject to change. Defund the police, turns into, well, the police just need more training, turns into, well the police are underfunded, turns into, fund the police. There’s not like, a way by which you can easily meme your way out of it, because it’s just what happens. The best defense has always just been a kind of moving target.
Yeah… I can denounce nazis while and at the same time denounce what Israel is doing in Gaza with a clear conscience.
I think you are mixing up the Star of David with the Israeli flag, which has the star on it.
Jews should not be faced with Antisemitism
We don’t stand for this, the bottom picture are 2 graffiti made by people who we don’t know, or when they were made, and 2 protestors with anti-Israel posters, not anti-Semitic. The wide movement of protests are absolutely not anti-Semitic, and you trying to post shit like this conflating anti-zionism with anti-Semitism is disgusting
The star of David makes the posters ambiguous they could refer to either Israel or Jews. The grafitti in the images is explicitly antisemitic. Splitting hairs over this is pretty gross imo. I don’t like crticiism of Israel being called antisemitic, but that doesn’t make antisemitism suddenly ok
Dude, nobody is saying the graffiti is not anti-Semitic, it literally says “kill the jews”, how on earth would that not be antisemitic. I’m saying they’re putting the graffiti on top of protestors in an obvious attempt to conflate antizionist protests with antisemitism
It’s not hard to distinguish between Jews and Israel. Those words I just used do the job. The protestors could do the same
In both signs, you can clearly see it’s the flag of Israel because of the blue stripes on top and bottom.
… And are you REALLY saying that the “final solution” phrase in this context doesn’t seem just a tad antisemitic? Look, I’m opposed to Israels actions but I think you’re being willfully blind
People have attacked synagogs for Israel’s actions because of the star of David. People conflated the two. It would be great if people did nuance. They do not
Yeah, some people have done that shit. I’m not arguing “there’s no antisemitism anymore”, that would be ridiculous, and antisemitism sucks. What sucks too is using antisemitism broadly to accuse non-antisemitic but anti-zionist protests against genocide in Gaza.
As I keep saying.
If you accuse those against Israel as being antisemitic, you’re gonna make more of them actually antisemitic
Are you implying there are people who didn’t stand for the first image and might stand for the second?
Absolutely 100% agreed. The organizers of the Palestinian protest should have kicked them out.
Not only is this despicable, it dilutes the very important effort of raising awareness of what Israel is doing in Gaza.
Paid actors?
Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity
Dunno. There’s idiots everywhere.
My last shred of hope. Why do people have to be dicks, like, all the time
Genocide is bad. Racism is bad. Mmmmkay.
That’s all that should need to be said.
I don’t care who’s genociding, it’s wrong
I don’t care who’s the racist, it’s wrong
I don’t care for their reasoning or defenses, they are wrong regardless.
Tolerate neither, ever
Well yeah, antisemitism is antisemitism. Antisemites can and should fuck off, and we should aid them in that process.
I feel like the “keep the world clean” is a really badly drawn israeli flag where it looks more like the star of david than the israeli flag
