In a row?
But he can still visit Daddy Putin, right?
including canada and the UK! hahahahah
As a brit I don’t see this being enforced in the UK. The gov would be too scared that trump or an ally would come to power and we can’t risk effecting the special welationship 👉👈
I’ve never had the use of two emojis make me this uncomfortable.
Quick, remind me which country Trump’s Aberdeenshire Golf course is in again?
Norway
Which means he can’t go to his own golf resort in Scotland.
Don’t worry, Canada will do like it did for GWB and give him an exemption if it comes to that
Is he still able to vote?
I think his state of residence is Florida.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residences_of_Donald_Trump
From his birth in 1946 until 2019, Trump listed his primary state of residence as New York; in September 2019, Donald and Melania moved their primary residence to Mar-a-Lago in Florida.[2][3] On January 20, 2021, Trump moved out of the White House preceding the inauguration of Joe Biden.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement_in_the_United_States
Florida is listed as temporarily disenfranchising felons:
Felons are enfranchised immediately following the full completion of sentences – involving imprisonment and/or parole or probation.
I don’t know when that starts, but I assume not until sentencing.
So, in theory, I guess if he’s sentenced to any of those things and the sentence extends across the election, then no, he can’t vote. If he gets probation in New York, then it sounds like he can’t vote.
But after any sentence is done, he can vote.
I don’t know for sure whether, if someone is serving time in prison in New York, whether their state of residence is changed to New York, though, or whether it just is treated as their last state of residence (which is what happens if you leave the US and vote from abroad – you vote as if a resident of the state that you last resided in). If he winds up serving time in a New York prison, which I would not expect, and if that changes his state of residence to New York, then New York law would potentially apply.
Wait, are criminals not allowed to vote in the US?
Jesus fucking hell, that is not ok.
I think that’s a rule from the 1870’s mostly aimed at preventing black people from voting.
Yep, in combination with “vagrancy” laws.
Here’s how the scheme worked:
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Refuse to hire blacks for anything more than “might as well still be slavery” wages.
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Arrest unemployed blacks for “vagrancy.”
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Re-enslave them (see “except as punishment for crime” clause of the 14th Amendment) and disenfranchise them as a bonus.
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In some jurisdictions, in some contexts, and for different lengths of time some criminals are denied the right to vote.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/felony-disenfranchisement-laws-map
Land of the free, baby!
Yeah, it varys from pretty fucked up to unreasonably fucked up depending on the state. Some states, you’re not able to vote while serving your term. In other states, you lose your right to vote for life.
It depends on the state
Apparently he will be able to vote as long as he doesn’t go to prison. That’s the state law of NY, and Florida’s law is the defer to the state where the crime is.
they should send him to jail for 1 day lol
Prison for 1 day, not jail.
Are felons not allowed to vote?
Depends on the state. Some states permanently revoke a felons right to vote. Some for the time that they’re actively in prison. Some do not revoke it at all.
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/felony-disenfranchisement-laws-map
Headlines are saying “yes”, as long as he’s not in jail on election day.
Soooooooooooooooo, hopefully no.
I’m amused at the fact that Australia doesn’t allow convicted felons to enter.
Also doesn’t Trump say that USA is #1? Why would he ever want to leave?
Australia has received too many convicted felons already, after they entered about 200 years ago.
Asylum in Russia.
Russia is notably not one of the countries which would disallow a convicted felon from entering.
They’ll take anyone these day, especially if they join the three day special military operation. I’m sure Ukranians would love to find him in a trench.
I don’t know about Australia, but before Australia was the destination for penal transportation from the UK, the American colonies were.
I recall reading that one of the factors that contributed to the American Revolution was that a lot of Americans wanted to be able to have some say in selecting immigrants, and didn’t really want the UK dumping criminals there.
I’d imagine that Australia might have some similar ideas.
kagis
This sounds like it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia
With increasing numbers of free settlers entering New South Wales and Van Diemen’s Land (Tasmania) by the mid-1830s, opposition to the transportation of felons into the colonies grew. The most influential spokesmen were newspaper proprietors who were also members of the Independent Congregational Church such as John Fairfax in Sydney and the Reverend John West in Launceston, who argued against convicts both as competition to honest free labourers and as the source of crime and vice within the colony. Bishop Bernard Ullathorne, a Catholic prelate who had been in Australia since 1832 returned for a visit to England in 1835. While there he was called upon by the government to give evidence before a Parliamentary Commission on the evils of transportation, and at their request wrote and submitted a tract on the subject. His views in conjunction with others in the end prevailed. The anti-transportation movement was seldom concerned with the inhumanity of the system, but rather the “hated stain” it was believed to inflict on the free (non-emancipist) middle classes.
Transportation to New South Wales temporarily ended 1840 under the Order-in-Council of 22 May 1840,[28] by which time some 150,000 convicts had been sent to the colonies. The sending of convicts to Brisbane in its Moreton Bay district had ceased the previous year, and administration of Norfolk Island was later transferred to Van Diemen’s Land.
Opposition to transportation was not unanimous; wealthy landowner, Benjamin Boyd, for reasons of economic self-interest, wanted to use transported convicts from Van Diemen’s Land as a source of free or low-cost labour in New South Wales, particularly as shepherds.[29][30] The final transport of convicts to New South Wales occurred in 1850, with some 1,400 convicts transported between the Order-in-Council and that date.[28]
The continuation of transportation to Van Diemen’s Land saw the rise of a well-coordinated anti-transportation movement, especially following a severe economic depression in the early 1840s. Transportation was temporarily suspended in 1846 but soon revived with overcrowding of British gaols and clamour for the availability of transportation as a deterrent. By the late 1840s most convicts being sent to Van Diemen’s Land (plus those to Victoria) were designated as “exiles” and were free to work for pay while under sentence. In 1850 the Australasian Anti-Transportation League was formed to lobby for the permanent cessation of transportation, its aims being furthered by the commencement of the Australian gold rushes the following year. The last convict ship to be sent from England, the St. Vincent, arrived in 1853, and on 10 August Jubilee festivals in Hobart and Launceston celebrated 50 years of European settlement with the official end of transportation.
Exactly. After the American revolution started, England needed a new place to send convicts.
Is Italy one of them, by chance?
The list is given in the article text.
You’ll never guess which country is #10!
It’s Macau. Sorry, I can’t stand suspense.
No 😔
Argentina Australia Canada China Cuba India Iran Israel Japan Kenya Macau New Zealand South Africa Taiwan United Kingdom United States
16 ≠ 37. You’re missing over half the list.
Read the article then?
I didn’t ask the question. Just here to point out your 43% “answer”.
Damn, a former president is banned from entering more countries than I am. That’s fucking wild and make me feel slightly better about some of the places I’ll never see again.
Which ones and why?
I sense a fun story and I’m here for it.
Not funny at all, actually. I got a DUI a month after turning 21. Fortunately, nothing terrible happened. There are many countries that either consider a DUI a felony (Canada) or just don’t want you endangering their populace (Japan). There’s quite a list, but it’s less than 37, lol.
I’ve had several friends that had duis all get turned around at the Canadian border
Damn that’s a shame cause japan is fun and it’s cheapish currently cause of the yen plummeting.
I spent six years there as a kid and experienced quite a bit. I really wanted to revisit as an adult, but that’s not in the cards now. I will always cherish the memories of my time spent there, and I’m glad my parents made a point to see as much of the country, people, and culture as possible.
Plummeting against what currency?
Against the US dollar and any equivalent currency.
On behalf of my country, I’m sorry.
I honestly have no idea why Canada sees this as enough of a problem to prohibit you from visiting.
It’s not like we don’t have people here, who live here, who have DUIs. We do. Lots of them.
Honestly, while it’s bad, it’s not like you’re coming over the border while driving under the influence. It just feels like something that should, at the very least, fall off, after a few years. Like, you get a DUI in 2020, you can’t visit until 2025 or something like that… As long as you don’t get another DUI or other felony, sure, why not?
IDK. I’m just some guy, eh?
If I understand correctly, there’s a way to get permission to enter if it’s been a certain amount of time after the conviction and it was a non-violent offense.
Alternatively you can get your record expunged in most states (except mine apparently).
IDK. I’m just some guy, eh?
Verified Canadian
I get it, though. Every country has the equivalent of “felons,” and they are not obliged to allow felons from outside in.
Donald Trump faces travel ban to 37 countries
That’s 3 more countries than his 34 felony counts!
Gotta pump those rookie numbers up.
Russia, maybe he goes to Russia. Putin and Trump now have the same enemy. Free western democratic justice system.
Based on data from the World Population Review, here is a list of countries that do not allow convicted felons to enter:
- Argentina
- Australia
- Canada
- China
- Cuba
- India
- Iran
- Israel
- Japan
- Kenya
- Macau
- New Zealand
- South Africa
- Taiwan
- United Kingdom
- United States
The good news for Trump, is that the UAE is not on the list.
Australia? I thought it was a requirement!
You’re telling me Australia was founded by convicts, yet they won’t allow criminals in? Where is their respect for heritage?!
I need a list of which ones don’t allow assholes to enter. :)
Neither is Russia. It’ll make it easier for him to personally kiss Putins ass.
He’s old though. Russia is too cold.
Wait we don’t allow people with felonies to enter? Quick! Get trump to leave the country!
I know it doesn’t work that way but God would it be funny.
Huh. Argentina. Lots of his kind from the fatherland down there. And now he can’t join them.
So if he does leave, he can’t come back?
I’m pretty sure it’s accepted pretty universally that countries must accept citizens back. Reason being, if they don’t, the rejected person becomes another country’s problem, and that is bad for relations.
It’s unconstitutional to deny a US citizen entry to the US. It’s the same in most other countries. But it still happens in many countries; Sweden for example has had a lot of problems deporting convicted criminals to their homelands, because their homeland refuses to accept them back.
So you’re saying we should take away his citizenship.
Agreed.
What citizenship? I never saw his long-form birth certificate. Clearly, he’s hiding the truth that he was born on the moon. Musk should pilot Starship to take him back on a one-way trip.
Remember when Trump said he sent investigators to Hawaii and told us “you wouldn’t believe” what they were finding? And then, I guess, decided that was literally true since he never told us what he decided they had found?
Obviously Trump was worried that if he said something people wouldn’t believe it would hurt his credibility.
I hope because of some weird loophole he has to live in an airport like Tom Hanks
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All he needs is russia and hes all they need
You’ve got to love the irony here. He complained for years that people entering at the southern border were criminals and shouldn’t be allowed in and now essentially other countries are saying the same thing about him.
