• xenoclast@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Rookie numbers. Alt Right rallies nowadays pull in way bigger groups. They just suck at pageantry.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Thanks. I was going to come in to burst that bubble. A ton of Americans were totally sympathetic to fascists until we went to war with Germany and it became unfashionable. But they didn’t change their politics, they just didn’t call it fascism anymore.

      Notice America didn’t have a problem with Franco and you didn’t hear a lot of Americans denouncing him since he wasn’t part of the Axis powers.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      In some cases, police responded to the protesters with violent attacks. In one instance, a protester escaped a mounted police officer who’d grabbed him by punching his horse in the face. As the rally broke up that night, some protesters were able to slip by police and punch departing Nazis in the face.

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    Remember, we didn’t beat the fascists during WWII using arguments and polite discussion. We bashed the fash back then, we can and must bash the fash today.

      • cows_are_underrated@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        They surely did their part, but it wasn’t only them. USA also had a quite important role in it. Yeah, the USSR won Stalingrad and pushed the German force back, but after the USA landed in the Normandy Germany had to fight at 2 fronts, which reduced the amount of casualties on the allied sides. Would the USSR be able to win the war without the USA? Maybe, I seriously don’t know, but saying that they were the one winning the war is kind of ignorant.

        • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Would the USSR be able to win the war without the USA?

          FWIW Kruschev said no fucking way, despite later claims of the Soviet leadership to have not needed US support. US-supplied weapons weren’t very important, but US food and trucks and petroleum allowed Soviet industry to focus primarily on weapons production.

        • Wiz@midwest.socialEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Had Russia won any war ever? Maybe not, except the internal ones against themselves.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      we didn’t beat the fascists during WWII using arguments and polite discussion

      Ironically enough, we beat the fascists with a command economy aimed squarely at maximizing war materiel production. Free enterprise my ass …

    • masquenox@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Orwell himself said that every fascist should be shot.

      Actually, he described the method that should be used to burn them in their tanks… but it comes down to the same thing, I guess.

      • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I’m paraphrasing for effect. I’m specifically referencing his statements about why he joined the Spanish Civil War. I’m pretty sure he never said “every fascist should be shot” but it makes for a shocking surprise for a chud who thinks that antifa is “Orwellian” because they’re “the real fascists”.

        • masquenox@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          I’m pretty sure he never said “every fascist should be shot”

          Probably not, but he sure as hell thought it - as we all should.

    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Kind of hard to talk people going to another war across the sea so soon after WW1. Plus, the US was more divided on WW2 then people tend to think prior to Pearl Harber.

    • Maestro@fedia.io
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      2 months ago

      You can always count on America to do the right thing… after they’ve tried everything else.

    • windie@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      And the nazis were inspired by the manifest destiny and praised the Jim Crow system.

    • fishos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      We didn’t hate them until we thought they might actually take us over as well. We weren’t fighting Nazis, we were fighting “un-Americans”. It’s literally just another flavor of racism(that we helped teach the Germans lmao - they loved our concept of eugenics)

      Notice how after Nazis it went to Commies, the other “un-American” type.

    • masquenox@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The Americans certainly took their fucking time to get involved though.

      And only when “manifest destiny” as it pertains to the Pacific Ocean, China and SE Asia was threatened by Japan.

  • essell@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Let’s be fair to the alt-right. Oppression, racism and all their other values are also American traditions. What a great melting pot!

  • collapse_already@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I got permabanned from reddit for posting the question “what would Eisenhower do if he was present with a machine gun?” underneath a picture of a Nazi march in Wisconsin. Apparently, that is inciting violence in reddit view. Gotta keep those Nazis safe.

    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I got banned for implying that the Israeli palatine conflict is more complicated then an episode of G I joe. And I have said some crazy fucked up shit that flew by the radar.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I got banned for replying to a sexist bigot who was saying gendered slurs and I quoted him and got banned also for using the quote feature to keep him from editing his comment. Mods banned me, didn’t listen to appeals, then it became an admin issue and the admins chased me around banning my accounts for ban evasion and then eventually hit me with an IP ban and ignored all appeals, because “the original comments have been deleted.” So if I want to talk shit to nazis there now I have to use a VPN.

      A 12-year-old account perma’d because I called out someone for using the B-word in a relationship sub.

      I am just so thrilled that our largest communication platform is being so diligently managed with such great common sense and healthy community standards. I bet the AI is going to make it even soooo much better.

    • InternetUser2012@midwest.social
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, the right is the most delicate of snowflakes. They’ll ban you for asking a question, they’ll plug their ears and yell shit about emails if you say something that hits home and they don’t have an answer.

  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    So’s shooting traitors and burning their fields!

    Get Billy back out here so we can do it proper this time!

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      There seem to be signatures along the ground. One kinda looks like it says [something] S. Buscema. After some quick googling, I think it might be Sal Buscema.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      That’s really not accurate. Prior to Pearl Harbor we were 1) helping extensively to re-arm Britain in their fight against Germany, 2) fighting an undeclared but active war against German U-boats in the Atlantic, and 3) placing an economic embargo on Japan in response to their ongoing invasion of China - the very act that precipitated the Pearl Harbor attack.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      So you are saying the U.S. should enter more wars? I thought the majority have been saying we need to stay the fuck out of every war until Ukraine got invaded.