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    don’t leave out his destruction of the media as a balanced source of information when he signed the veto that killed the Fairness Doctrine. fuck that guy so hard.

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    I always hate the “time traveller kills Hitler” stchick.

    Killing Reagan does not change the political climate that allowed him to rise to power. In fact killing him could have made things worse for the USA. See 9/11 for a recent example.

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        Also, Trickle-Down-Assassination… Every president after him would get shot too. Or not I dunno

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          It’s what happened after Lincoln. All presidents since him have not survived or are expected to die within the next few decades.

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      I wouldn’t have killed Regan had I gone back in time, I would’ve gone a bit further back and after Rockerfeller got forced to sell standard oil, I would’ve offed him just before he was able to use the money he gained to form Chicago University and it’s dreaded Chicago school of economics.(home to the ludicrous idea that the free market will regulate itself) Which I think had even worse consequences than Reganomics, if not directly influencing it.

      At the very least, it would’ve likely extended the 30 years worth of post Roosevelt economic prosperity that decreased wage gaps, and actively created the middle class at least a bit longer before some other rich butthole got the same or a similar idea as Rockerfeller.

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        It’s called the University of Chicago. And yup, it continues to be a vicious pile of shit to this day, fucking over the vulnerable communities around it, providing substandard health care and sitting on a 10 billion dollar endowment that they refuse to use to either raise employee wages or lower tuition. (Fun fact: They’re projected to become the first university in the country to have six-figure tuition.)

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      That assumes you’re only pulling off one time-travel assassination. What if you just keep doing them until the lack of the relevant people shifts the political climate by itself? Like in the "go back and kill Hitler (or just push him onto a different life path at a young age, if you have time travel, you can probably remove someone as a leader without just killing them), sure, maybe a different fascist rises in Germany instead, but if you take out that one too, and the next one, and the next, eventually someone who isn’t a fascist will manage to get into office, or if you keep it up long enough, the german fascist movement will run out of viable leaders, and cease to be a major factor in the political climate of the time.

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          To be honest, going back and just taking Hitler or any similarly historically important person out of the equation is likely enough to do that, for most people, given the impact he had on the world, or at the least removes the reason for you to go back in time, so presumably if you’re seriously contemplating doing this, whatever time travel mechanism you have going on probably has to be one where you are shielded from the consequences of whatever changes you make anyway.

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      Just go a bit farther back and teach Bonzo how to do the deed.

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      To do a real change in the course of history, kill Calvin, the very moment after he was born, thus killing Calvinism in its cradle.

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      As a senator of California: enacted the beginning of gun control to stop black men from arming themselves against racist corrupt cops

      As a president: crippling the American middle class to enrich the upper class wealthy elites and solidifying their control

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          no one has even given you the worst stuff so far for some reason?

          • after receiving reports that Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons against his own people, Reagan funded… Saddam Hussein

          • and then after there was another attack on the Kurds, killing 5000 with a chemical weapon, Reagan swiftly went into action and… gave them more money and advice, AND vetod a UN resolution to condemn Hussein

          • he did make a law to make it illegal to do what he did in the last two points, but then not only continued to do it to break his own law, but broke it again in also selling weapons to Hussein’s enemy in Iran. So now he’s funding both sides of the war.

          • and then he did it again in selling weapons to Nicaragua

          • and then formed the Nicaraguan contra in order to help terrorists overthrow the democratic government

          • and did it again in Iran, which is what formed Al Qaeda.

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          Deregulation, “trickle down economics”, etc. He was one of the steps down toward the toilet the Republican party is today.

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          Basically, popularized the neoliberal economic policies that have systematically ground down workers rights, pay, and civil liberties in America all while adopting an extreme interventionist attitude that led to him directly supporting fascists across the world, especially in South America.

          Ignored the AIDs crisis because it was killing gay people and drug users, so he loved it.

          Started the War on Drugs, which in addition to the massive death toll and creation of massive criminal empires to supply the need turned American cops into a paramilitary force.

          Like, we can be here all day. Guy sucked so hard in addition to all his outright evil he literally took scheduling advice for press conferences from a fucking astrologer. Just the dumbest, most malicious bastard to be in the office that we can’t prove owned slaves.