B5; welcome aboard our five mile long rotating tin can. We’ll over through our government, electrocute angels, and figure out who Jack the Ripper was. Also included in your stay is a quarantine that wipes out an entire species. Be sure to check out the zocalo for your fresh orange fix!
Also there’s a telepathic police force that abuses its power every opportunity it gets. Watch out for those guys, they’re real assholes
Bester was one of the best things about B5
But don’t think that, they’ll know
Perpetually confused white guy is not Doctor Twink? I’m stuck on this one.
O’Brien is what I thought of.
Bashir is #FFFFFF compared to O’Brien. The Irish working class guy is whiter than the genetically engineered Oxbridge English guy? I don’t think this has been thought through.
Haha. You aren’t wrong.
… Bashir is clearly intended to be of middle eastern or perhaps Indian descent, somewhat obvious from the actor. And the episode with his parents, also both clearly not white.
I know we’re talking about characters, but Bashir’s actor was born in Sudan, is half Sudanese, and his birth name is “Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abdurrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi” as an FYI.
Yes but there’s skin white and then there’s state of mind white. Irish and Italians for example weren’t in the “white” club until relatively recently.
He was genetically engineered because his parents were working class and were worried that their kid would be too dumb for even that. He’s not exactly high society.
After watching Lower Decks for 3 seasons and going back to TOS, I’m thinking about watching some of the middle entries. What are some of the meaningful differences between them. In other words: What should I watch?
I highly reccomend DS9 and Voyager (in that order) if you did like TOS
DS9 is much better since it follows a continuing plot instead of TOS which is more of a “monster of the week” format
i hate lower decks because they stole the entire style from Final Space. everything. lost all respect for star trek.
I advise you to never ever educate yourself on the history of art
well one could argue star trek is like hitler germany supressing art and stealing all kinds of shit. cant remember an artist really that extorted the entire art of another artist. you?
Honestly every series is enjoyable in its own right if you don’t take it too seriously. Even the worse ones like Enterprise are still fun to watch, even if they don’t hold a candle to others.
I can enjoy them all, as you said.
I watched the first season of discovery. It was pretty cool…I enjoyed all the characters. Now, though, it’s 2% story and 98% messaging. Wtf is this shit?
What? Messaging? Its the same as its been ?
It starts getting good around season 3
It also starts disappearing from Amazon around season 3… if we’re talking Lower Decks.
Oh, I was talking tng. Were we talking about lower decks?
Edit: nope, it was TOS. We were both wrong haha. In which case I still maintain that it starts getting good after season three.
Don’t forget the pansexual space lizard (who’s just a simple tailor, that’s it I swear haha) and the capitalist goblins.
*idiot savant
captain peggard amirite?
Forgot the weekly socialist conventions and baseball games on DS9 😔
Picard gets pegged? I clearly missed the TNG After Dark episodes.
I am no longer non-binary. I now identify as a trans worm
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Took me a while to figure out who trans worm is. But yeah, spot on.
I don’t understand the pegging reference. Also
lesbian terrorist
I wish
I don’t understand the pegging reference.
Maybe this will help:
Ah I don’t remember that scene. It’s been a while
Yeah she was never lesbian!
She was straight. The mirror version of her was clearly bisexual
There was a slight hint towards her and Jadzia dating in the beginning of the show so I assumed she was lesbian. Then I got endlessly disappointed when she only dated men… The fact that she’s bisexual only in de evil dimension makes it even worse because of the implication that gay = bad.
Honestly, I’m not the biggest fan of the tendency to interpret platonic relationships as sexual ones. I do get the desire for more representation, but I just wish the community wasn’t so willing to ignore regular old platonic friendships.
I’m sure that comes mostly from me as a guy who puts more emphasis on strong platonic bonds than sexual relationships. But I just don’t see Julian and O’Brien’s “bromance” as a boyfriend relationship, nor did I see Kira and Jadzia’s as dating either.
So speculation isn’t allowed either? When 2 people in a show are having secret meetings together I think it’s pretty normal for the audience to speculate that they are dating (which was the case with Kira and Jadzia). I’m just expressing my disappointment that this speculation was false.
Also, I don’t like it when shows include obvious hints that two people of the same gender are dating and then never actually show it. Because this tactic is very often used to bait queer people while also keeping their homophobic audience. The result is that many shows won’t actually express any queer relationships because hinting at it is enough. Not saying that this is the case in ds9, but imo it’s a bigger problem with more material effects than what you’re describing.
I’m not saying fan theories aren’t allowed, I just said I’m not a fan of it.
I would hardly call their outings “secret” when it involves Kira getting into costume and walking clear across the promenade before deciding the holosuite isn’t for her. I just didn’t interpret any of the details as “hints they were dating” when the simpler “friends going out to do something fun” was not only on the table, it was clearly the intention of the scene.
For the record, I didn’t see Garak and Julian as dating either. Sure, Garak may have been trying, but Julian was more enamored with the spy scenario and intrigue than Garak himself as a potential partner
There’s a moment in ops where they’re clearly hiding from the rest of the crew that they’re hanging out.
Q
Basically implying their relationship is homoerotic in nature.
That’s Nana…
Right I’m pretty sure Sisko isnt a lesbian. He’s definitely a terrorist though!
If O’Brien is perpetually confused it’s probably because he has to keep a space station engineers by the Cardis running. I would be perpetually confused too, what with the plasma injectors being the way that they do and all
And apparently he’s the only one who can do actual work, and by work I mean everything, from fixing the future version of your apartment’s gas stove, to making sure the whole space station doesn’t explode for whatever reason this week.
It only explodes if you upload everyone’s brains into the main computer, or you go look in a random section you’ve never been in before, and how often is that going to happen.
Anyway the most dangerous thing on board is absolutely definitely the turbo lift, someone’s getting their fingers cut off or is falling down the hole in the bridge.
He had to add in so many second backups, too!
Especially when he has to keep taking time off work to suffer Horrors Beyond Human Comprehension™
our captain gets pegged
It’s been a while since I watched TNG, but I don’t remember this at all.
pegged
by borg
Time for a rewatch. It’s in the very first episode.
