People should be talking about void. Such bullshit. :p
But how can you talk about it if it has no type and no defined sizeof
Called it!
Boooooo to this post
“Rewrite the internet in C”
This would somehow be worse than JS
We could call it … WebAssembly! And now it’s a C compilation target, which means we can run Node.js in the browser, to get a javascript runtime :)
Isn’t that the other way around? Developing for the web in assembly is not the same as running assembly on a browser.
It could be the same.
I am the Excel/Ubuntu person 😳
I still love you
Meh. I’d say we tie him to a post and burn the heretic.
But with love.
Just a tad.
and have the machines running rocky linux
Google Sheets/MacOS
Where Nix/Lix/Auxolotl/NixOS?
there was only space for 5 things ( *** Debloat Mindset *** )
I’ll allow it. But I can’t promise anything from the void crowd.
I’m running NixOs as a daily driver for a while now. It’s the first time I want to actively convince people to try out a distro. But then I realise most people around me would not want to bother learning how to configure it.
Same. It’s very elegant. But yeah: the lacking documentation makes the learning curve way too steep for most people.
I only take on gross work, as per rhyming conventions gross work is your gross worth.
Nah, that way, I can be the Alpha-Nerd in my circle, getting all the clout when I help them out with a command-line-command that contains awk.
They also all need to be using librebooted computers (Thinkpad and Optiplex)
corebooted chromebooks are more libre
The problem is installing Linux on them is a nightmare and bring a risk of bricking them.
also a lot of them have soldered storage of like 16 gigs, which just isn’t enough for most ppl
s/librebooted/canoebooted/
it’s honestly quite strange. The Libreboot term has been known for years to refer to the fully free bios project. Then they merged osboot and Libreboot so now libreboot contains proprietary blobs. Then they decided to make a new project canoeboot, which is basically the new libreboot.
so they went from having:
- osboot
- libreboot
to having:
- canoeboot
- libreboot
All they seemed to have done is confuse.
Canoeboot was made as a joke to make fun of OSS enthusiasts.
yea, no thanks - “the grind” mindset is just capitalism worming itself into your brain
yup, but the meme makes fun of that mindset and the original meme template in my opinion
We live in a capitalist society though.
This is real. This is why my friends are lame now. Not the kids or jobs.
They’re still on Windows
What if we discuss Debian?
You’re smart just not an elitist.
What if I use Ubuntu but I’d rather talk about the kernel than distros?
Is that before or after you talk about unity not being that bad?
I loved the Amazon spyware Ubuntu days
Idk did you stan for 24.06 or are you still a reasonable person like “why that OS so big?”
I honestly just want to enjoy Linux. If I’m concerned about what happens in every update, I won’t enjoy it.
So I leave the worrying to other people. If something really bad happens that I need to know about, I’ll probably hear about it on these communities.
“Ubuntu did this crazy thing!!!”
Google -> how to disable this crazy thing?
disables the crazy thing
So far I haven’t been hacked (almost 7 years using it) or murdered by the phantom of the bloat. Everything works fine. The only issues I’ve had are Nvidia related. Fuck Nvidia.
Ubuntu literally delivers the promise of a user friendly experience, which is what I want. I don’t want to obsess about the libraries or Init system my distro uses. I just want it to work. I’ll let other amazing minds to worry about the philosophy and technical aspects while I just cruise.
I know I can relax thanks to other people who really worry and want everything to be perfect. I’m really grateful with them, I just don’t want to be them.
My concern when I see bloat is “what are you hiding?”
And to me it represents the possibility that Ubuntu with Firefox is trying to make a marketable OS, which is just Windows with extra steps.
But overall I hear you. I daily drive Ubuntu 22.04, Ubuntu Server 22.04, Debian 12.5 and Windows 11 (sigh)
That’s exactly what Canonical is trying to do. They are trying to create a system with all the batteries included so people don’t need to worry about installing extra stuff, which means that of course they’ll have a bunch of bloat if you don’t use everything they offer, which is probably the case.
Their end goal is to be able to push this to the masses and maybe one day be able to get compensation for their effort.
I wouldn’t mind if Ubuntu becomes a Microsoft Windows-like product. If that’s what it takes to steal people from the claws of Microsoft, I’m OK with that. That would mean that hardware manufacturers will start developing specialized drivers for their hardware in Linux. To this day, in freaking 2024, I need to have a Windows image in order to configure my headset and mouse because developing the interfaces for Linux is pointless for these companies.
We still have like 50 other distros we can use. Let Ubuntu be that bridge to bring more users to Linux.
Wait, there’s someone here aware of hardened gentoo? Well I’ll be damned! Come out of the shadows, fellas!
I’m always hard when someone talks about Gentoo!
Excuse me, sir, it’s the Gentoo bits that are supposed to be hard, not yours.
On an unrelated note - I’m building a binhost. Currently stuck on trying to figure out a way of building packages without instaling them and not using
quickpkg>That does sound hard!
Man, I wish there were more people around me who cared about discussing Linux and open source software. Only one person I know actually understands it, but he’s still running windows for games and programming.
Then you‘re definitely in the wrong circle. Join a local computer club if that exists. Changes things dramatically.
That sounds pretty nice actually. I’m based in Sydney, but I don’t really find anything like a computer club nearby.
Maybe i just don’t know how to search for it.
windows […] programming.
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People drink the Microsoft Kool aid, it’s called money, they generally want it.
Plebs…
It is said that the true linux developer can survive for months at a time on nothing but a piece of dead skin from a callus on his foot and the energy of the community-maintained free and open-source software
They have been taken by the dark side.
We don’t use open-source around here pardner.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
honestly open source software is important.
I am a Microsoft user (sorry) but don’t think my company will allow use of other programs due to software policy.
Is there an open soursce excel and powerbi / powerpoint thing ?
LibreOffice Calc is pretty good. Your company can invest in a fork and it should do what you need.
Power BI is a different kind of beast though. Soon only available as part of Microsoft Fabric, a SaaS analysis platform. Sure, the technically inclined can use Python/R/Julia with MongoDB, a set of SQL DBs, some CI and Plotly/Dash, but that effectively requires to have some Software- and Data Engineers on staff and some dedicated machines/VMs. Power BI / Fabric is much cheaper for small to medium sized companies outside of IT.
Neat
Thanks for a free answer you could charge somebody for :)
Thats interesting! Thanks for elaborating.
I have never heard of it so I cant say if there is an alternative but I‘m pretty sure being vendor locked like this is MUCH more expensive than using a more complicated bit open solution in the long term.
Open source enterprise solutions are pretty much non-existent, thus it’s never cheaper to go open source.
Feel free to show a usecase where that is the case. the actual cost and opportunity cost of a vendor lock in is quite severe.
I mean Power BI is an example in this thread. Or any software that requires an ISO certification. Or any industrial application like CAD. Basically any piece of software which cannot be used for a hobby doesn’t have an open source alternative. And even some hobbies don’t really have alternatives. I mean I would love to replace Fusion 360 with something open source, but FreeCAD is a joke.
DiCaprio would object to people older than 25 being in his group
