Please use a personal email. My email is ‘mail’ @ ‘my actual name’. It does not get more personal than that
But you can’t use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.
Instead they advised me (3 times) to create a personal email on a service like Yahoo, Outlook, Gmail, Orange, etc
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They’re advising you to use a personal email that is tied more directly to your name or identity, like using Yahoo Mail, Outlook, or Gmail, which they view as more personalized.
If you’d like, you could try creating an email address with your actual name (or a variation) on one of the recommended services, like: yourname@gmail.com yourname@yahoo.com This should resolve the issue
But you can’t use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.
If it’s exactly stuff like “mail@”, many mail systems will redirect stuff with a plus suffix to your main mailbox, like “mail+changeorg@”. That might be okay.
As others have said, I’d suggest either:
- enabling a catchall address (which will redirect to anything@yourdomain.com --> spam@yourdomain.com)
- creating an alias: something@yourdomain.com --> mail@yourdomain.com
Both are done on your server/hosting side.
Ah, change.org. I remember when they said “you can sign a petition without an account, just a mail validation”, immediately followed by “if you don’t create an account, the validation link in the mail will not work, fuck you”.
Guess they didn’t really want people to engage.
Yeah I also have a non-standard email address, and I occasionally run into systems that aren’t properly set up to handle odd domains. I’ve definitely seen the “Please enter a valid email address. Make sure it ends with @gmail/yahoo/outlook etc” messages before.
Nonstandard email sounds so wrong! As long are it is valid, there should be no limits. Especially if they ask you to confirm by clicking on a link in a mail
Oh I agree. But there are a lot of systems that don’t even recognize TLDs outside of .com, .org, and .net.
That’s quite a sensible rule, actually.
lol “security” in this case is probably more like expediency in trying to solve a spam problem
Yes, so they don’t become a spam proxy filling up RFC 2142 address names.
Security ain’t free.
Please use a personal email. My email is ‘mail’ @ ‘my actual name’. It does not get more personal than that
It’s a legit rule they’re enforcing, IMO. Generic email addresses are usually unmonitored mailboxes that don’t bounce. Easy to use if you’re spamming contact forms and stuff like that.
Instead they advised me (3 times) to create a personal email on a service like Yahoo, Outlook, Gmail, Orange, etc
I think this is more a boilerplate suggestion, to lower the barrier to entry for people. Gotta remember, those of us that host our own email and/or use our own personal domains are definitely in the minority.
If you own the domain being used, I assume you also host your own email… You can’t just make a new address for this and have them all forwarded to your actual email?
“This_is_not_generic” @ “your actual name”
Unless they block that too, I don’t think they’re trying to force those services on you; they’re just popular options and this is an automated response sent by an automated process that only checks the first half of the email and not the domain.
It’s pretty common to own a domain but not actually host the email server; doing on-premises email is a security PITA and most providers simply blacklist large swathes of residential and leasable (e.g. VPS) IPs.
Unfortunately, if you get someone else to host your email, they often charge by the account, not by the domain. Setting up a new mailbox is therefore irritatingly expensive.
A catch-all email works well, though, and is free from most of the hosting providers. Downside is you get spam…
Jane@JaneDoe certainly seems more common than mail@JaneDoe.
Aliases also exist, that’s what I use.
My main e-mail Is name@surname.tld
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So which corpo monitored email address did you end up going with?
Stop using self hosted email. It’s just not worth the hassle.
I like that i have control of my mail, that it is not being used to track me or target ads and also that i dont need to work about storage
For me its pretty good!
Hey! Don’t mean to butt in, but what’s some pointers? I currently have resend set up for my personal site, but would like a fully fledged email server
I simply host it on a webserver for now.
Who said it’s self hosted? For what we know he could be paying $200 a year to Microsoft for his personal mail@domain account under the most expensive office365 plan (sorry, did it change name? What’s called now? Microsoft 365?)
Frustratingly, those are actually two separate plans.
Its only a hassle because they want to read all your emails. Self hosting shouldn’t be hard it should be an option for everyone always.
abuse@website-im-visiting.comprobably wouldn’t work as well …Create an alias and set forwarding
“why should I change? He’s the one who sucks”
Ah, the age old “right” vs “effective” argument.
Never seen office space?
I’ve got a catch-all setup to go straight to my spam folder, OP could do something similar.
Set all mails addressed to your domain but to the wrong email to be sent to your primary email. Then sign the petition with “<service_you_are_signing_up_fo>@yourname.com”.
Yeah. I didn’t have a catch all mail and have set it up now. I was just surprised and ‘mildly infuriated’ that they would block this
Catch all is better you can see who’s selling your email lol
I do this with my domain and it works great.
Only negative I’ve had is that people with a similar name have ended up signing up for things and misspelling theirs with it ending up on mine.
I haven’t ever used it, never signed a petition, but isn’t change.org only about petitions? I can kinda see their reasoning… They may even have had their hand forced to do it.
Loads of people who want their way probably signed up with tons of accounts to skew the results. If it’s going to work, I guess they need to be able to show that they’re legit, out at least that change.org are doing their best to make it that they are.
It’s easy to set up one gmail account for example and use it a million times with moving a dot throughout the name or putting a plus sign and anything after the username but before the @ symbol.
They still require you to confirm the email by clicking a link sent to that email, although someone mentioned that this may be an option to the creator of the petition
I do understand the requirement of not using . or + but blocking mail@ info@ seems too extreme to me.
Automailers often have names like that i.e. noreplymail@companyname.com so it may be more about stopping spam or stopping people from using spam email accounts.
That sounds like nonsense.
Can be automated. Creating a new e-mail account is more annoying.
