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Eh. Tried fallout 2 a while ago because the lore is interesting… Boring. Too much grind, too much emptiness.
I spent eight rounds failing to reload my gun and died to the first rat
I can see getting killed by a rat, but I don’t know how it would repeatedly fail to reload. Using a gun on rats is a waste of ammo anyway. You don’t need to reload a spear.
Pirate the old uncensored version so you can blow up kids!
Fallout 3 my favourite and that new TV shows not bad
As someone who started with 3 and is enjoying a replay and low key excited to do the dlcs on that one for the first time, these comments are making me more optimistic about trying 1 and 2.
There are mods to fix some of the bugs and add some quality of life but they’re still pretty janky and obtuse. That being said, they’re still fantastic and engrossing games that are absolutely worth trying.
Been having a hell of a time installing the resoration patch for Fallout 2 with WINE. The last issue I noticed was with the inconsistent character case in the config and install files.
Well, buddy you should try it sober instead then
It’s just a small drop of wine in a very, very large bucket of drugs.
I’m replaying the first Fallout since the show release and as much as I love it the controls suck. I would like to see a remaster that fixes that. Graphics are fine to me though.
Please don’t kill me, but I hate those games. There are very few 2D games that I like and fallout 1 and 2 are not on the list.
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Brittanyisometric projection alone!
Curious what’s your year of birth?
FO2 is a great game but there’s no way my kids, who have only known 3D, could get into something so old.
I was around to play games from the NES and SNES. I particularly enjoyed Zelda 3 and Super Metroid, both on the SNES. Heck, I even enjoyed The Lord of the Rings Volume 1 by Interplay on the SNES. But I don’t really like Fallout 1 or 2.
Whether someone likes some 2D games or not has absolutely nothing to do with their age.
Liking or disliking a 2D game is not a generational divide.
Fallout never was everyone’s cup of tea.
It was a cult classic from the start. Also CRPGs have always been pretty niche, with the occasional exception they rarely break into the mainstream.
I can’t imagine anyone not enjoying Mario 3 or super Mario world.
Or Tetris. Some games are timeless.
I don’t know if you’ve ever tried GTA 1 or 2 but you could tell Rockstar was on to something fun even if they didn’t have amazing graphics.
I played them when they came out and Ive played them again recently… time has not been kind to the UI. The game is great, but the dated UI and graphics feel it.
Most games I like are 2D, so that’s kind of a weird statement. I grew up on SNES, though. My family skipped the N64, so I didn’t even get a 3D console until the GameCube… Which I didn’t even get until years after it launched.
I liked them when I was little, because that’s all we had at the time and we didn’t know any better. Now, that we have amazing games with insane graphics, 2D games look like shit to me. I’m so sorry if that’s offensive, but that’s how I just feel about them, genuinely
Different strokes, I suppose. I have never cared for graphics in a game. I don’t care today, I didn’t care when I was playing Super Mario World as a kid. I care far more about gameplay, tight controls, and later in life I started caring more about good narrative. The best looking game in the world wouldn’t keep my attention if the controls felt like garbage, or if the gameplay was just plain boring.
I care about graphics in games (although mostly due to art direction rather than just “realism”). And yet I still agree with you and think the other guy is bonkers. 2D games can be awesome, 3D games can be awesome.
Far be it from me to speak to the validity of your feelings. But, to me, that seems like a bit of a massive over generalization. Many 3D games look like shit, many look amazing. Many 2D games look like shit, many look amazing.
I mean, saying a 3D game like Gollum looks better than a 2D game like Hollow Knight, just because it’s 3D sounds insane to me.
Let Larian have a crack at fallout, classic style.
No, unless they ditch their terrible Divinity style of gameplay.
They literally make games like Fallout 1 & 2. What are you on about? Bethesda?
Divinity’s gameplay and emphasis on environmental damage/traps is really annoying. I love the studio, but not a fan of their design choices.
Sry mate your movement is reduced because of the blood of the guy you just killed.
His blood also conducts electricity. An enemy throws a lightning bolt at you that hits all members of your party standing in the blood. It also hits an exploding barrel that has, for some reason, just been stacked there. Your party all dies.
Use a mod to remove the day limit and the experience becomes much better, you can play at your own pace.
Intellectually I know it’s fine. I know there’s plenty of time to complete the game. I just can’t stand a ticking clock counting down, constantly. It makes me anxious and completely ruins my enjoyment of the game. I also have this problem with Stardew Valley where I constantly feel like there’s not enough time and I’m being pulled in several directions at once and I can’t focus on anything. It’s a nightmare.
I know people say it doesn’t matter but I’m the same way with Stardew. I ended up downloading a cheat mod that lets you freeze time because I realized it’s supposed to be a nice, relaxing game, and I wasn’t feeling that way. I don’t use the freeze much, but it lets me enjoy the game without stressing.
With Stardew, really?
You can start making friends at year 58 if you want, there’s no consequence to anything in that game… You can forget your animals for a year and start giving them love again and they’ll start producing again… It’s a game where each day you can decide to focus on one thing and it doesn’t matter if you forget about the rest…
It’s not about worrying that I won’t be able to do stuff again, just the existence of the ever-looming timer is stressful. And you have to water your crops every morning, and harvest them when they’re ready. You can only plant certain crops in certain seasons. There are requests on the bulletin board that have time limits. Shops are only open on certain days, and I know if I don’t do that thing today I won’t be able to tomorrow because it will be closed. If the timer didn’t matter, then there wouldn’t be a timer.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Stardew Valley. But I stopped playing it, partly because I found it too stressful. Which isn’t great cause people always advertise it as this really relaxing game, and I’m sure it is for them, but I guess my brain just works differently. And I really want to like Stardew Valley more, I want to be able to play it and relax.
I’m not even trying to minmax or anything, I try to take my time, but it doesn’t really work. I can’t just ignore the timer, cause then I’ll pass out and wake up with hardly any stamina.
Edit: Also “you can just focus on one thing” sure, but then what do I do for the rest of the day?
For the rest of the day? Go fishing my dude! 😎
It took me a while to figure this out during my first playthrough. Once you realise it’s not like harvest moon and there is no end to the game and you can just do what you want for as long as you want, the game became much more enjoyable for me
Fallout Fixt mod allows you to increase the time limit and practically disable it, among many other tweaks
That’s less of an issue with the second game, as you can ignore the timer, but yeah that’s part of why I never really tried the first game.
I think its harder to ignore in the second game, since the shaman dude constantly telepathically calls you up like “So uh, you find that GECK yet? Shit’s starting to get kinda bad up here.” Every now and then. The first game just has the post-it note with how many days you got left that you can ignore.
You would have hated the original Stardew Valley Gramp Pa, would give you a stern talking too and declare his immeasurable disappointment (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
I can somewhat understand though, I like the timer aspect even if I do not like the feeling of being “rushed”. But I understand, you would hate pathfinder:kingmaker though
Imagine if they made a deal with Larian to make another installment in the franchise (not Fallout 5, just something like New Vegas by Obsidian). How cool would that be? They specialize in turn-based, top-down RPGs and would fit perfectly.
Although Larian and Black Isle have both excelled at novelistic (as opposed to Bethesda’s simulationist) games, what a lot of people loved about Fallout 1+2 was how the storytelling was regional, factional, and political. The payoff was how the denouement responded to your in game choices, and how your story could be contextualized in a larger living world.
The Larian house style is great, but more focused on characters, interpersonal storytelling, dialogue and forensically detailed narrative exception handling. There are voiced lines and detailed writing intended for even the most abstrusely sequenced playthroughs that few players will ever see. Black Isle did something similar, but with less graphical acumen and in more factional terms.
It would be interesting and likely profitable to see how Larian’s style came across in a Fallout game, but I’m not sure it’s a perfect fit for a story that’s at its best when it’s critiquing society and human nature at large.
I put a lot of hours into Fallout 1. What a great game.
Also everyone should play Arcanum
I wanted to love this game so much back in the day but sadly it seemed to have a lot of bugs. Are there any fan patches to make it playable on modern systems?
I will also say, the original Fallouts are games of its time. It sold itself off its narrative and as I am playing Fallout 2, it is still enjoyable but I do concede there are moments of frustration that one learns to work around.
It is not a perfect game, but it is a game that was written in a plausible manner that could be considered too real look at human nature at times and in the same breath going off the rails crazy with something out of pocket that can catch one off guard.
It does a great job of allowing one to make it their story, although some of the writing might not gel with everyone it at least framed it well in setting.
It think it gels well with people that can roleplay in a setting as even the combat logs have humour to it. It requires a lot of reading and the people in the videos look like clay dolls but it is bound to envoke something in someone if they are enjoying themselves playing these types of games.
The turn-based nature of the combat can turn people off, but I cannot deny the charm of running up to someone and giving them a concussion by wolloping their head and then going in to gouge their eyes to make them useless in combat and finishing them off with a shot to the groin.
