Xbox knows it needs to get a Fallout game out.
    • Gamoc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      This is Bethesda. Either they rush and it releases riddled with bugs or they don’t rush and it still releases riddled with bugs.

  • TachyonTele@lemm.eeEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I’m down with Bethesda using up the end of Howards career for fallout. Anything to get new blood into the company for ESVI

  • Blizzard@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Obsidian is currently developing Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2 so it’s rather unlikely they’ll work on another Fallout installment.

    Microsoft (who clearly smelled the money after seeing the show’s popularity and related games sells hike) could have someone remake New Vegas. Just let it not be Virtuos…

    And most importantly, I hope TES6 and the next Fallout are not Xbox exclusives…

  • Titou@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I would love a New Vegas 2/Fallout 5 developped by Obsidian, or even a New Vegas Remake/Remaster.

  • Liome@pawb.socialEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Okay, gotta say, if Obsidian would be the ones to do it, as article suggests, then I’m interested.

        • Sylvartas@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          You forgot the best part where despite the insanely short dev time, a big part of their payment was tied to the game’s metascore some time after release. They missed the mark by 1 point (out of 100), and didn’t even get a fraction of the sum as a result.

          • Gingerbeardman@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            I think that was recently proven false. Still, the guys at Obsidian did an amazing job pumping out one of the best games of all time in a year and a half.

      • TachyonTele@lemm.eeEnglish
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        7 months ago

        JE Sawyer made a mod for the game after it was released. That’s as close to more dev time as it gets.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      7 months ago

      I don’t know how much of the Fallout: New Vegas group is still there. Fallout: New Vegas was done 15 years ago.

      But the (mainline) series has also had successful games done by different studios. Fallout was Black Isle. Fallout 2 was Black Isle – with the leads from the first game having left to join Troika. Fallout 3 was Bethesda. Fallout: New Vegas was Obsidian. Fallout 4 was Bethesda. Fallout 76 was Bethesda.

      I figure that if there have been that many handoffs done successfully, they can probably manage to do another.

      • Pechente@feddit.deEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Well they’re still making good games that fit the same vibe like Outer Worlds. So the talent is definitely still there.

        • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I wasn’t actually a huge fan of The Outer Worlds, didn’t really click for me. I mean, yeah, it’s got a lot of similar elements to the Fallout series, but it’s got some important stuff missing that’s part of what makes Fallout interesting for me. It wasn’t terrible, but it just wasn’t Fallout for me…kinda felt like I was slogging through the thing.

          • Not much to stumble on in the world outside the cities. Fallout tended to work by having one constantly “stumble across” things in the world, kinda kept up a seamless flow of new things happening. I’ll add that I think that the lack of this is part of what some people didn’t like with Starfield – one can run into things when jumping into a system, but feels more artificial and “gamey”.

          • It’s technically open-world, but there’s little reason to backtrack. I played it in mostly linear fashion.

          • The perks are a big part of Fallout for me, the interesting character-building. You can choose neat things that interact and substantially change how one plays. The Outer Worlds perks are nearly all minor stat tweaks.

          • Aside from the handful of science weapons, most of the weapons in The Outer Worlds play in pretty much the same way, aren’t that memorable. Maybe one gets a slight buff relative to the other. Not a lot of interesting characteristics or story around them the way there is, say, Ratslayer.

          • I realize that this is subjective, but Fallout has historically had moments that the designers made impressive and memorable to me, where one said “wow” the first time through. For me, some were Liberty Prime being activated and the subsequent mission in Fallout 3, maybe the Brotherhood of Steel airships arriving in Fallout 4, or the godrays shining through the gratings at ArcJet Systems in the A Call To Arms mission. There wasn’t really a point where The Outer Worlds did that for me. Everything felt more-or-less like what I’d expect in the runup to the mission, didn’t really have “wow” moments.

          There were some things that I liked about The Outer Worlds relative to the Fallout series:

          • I found it to be pretty stable and bug-free. Fallout has improved recently, and if one counts it, Starfield was quite good, but historically, the whole series has often had a lot of bugs, especially at release.

          • There were story-altering choices. Not quite as much as Fallout: New Vegas, but more than, say, Fallout 76.

      • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Here’s a list of credits for Fallout: New Vegas:

        https://www.mobygames.com/game/48717/fallout-new-vegas/credits/windows/

        Obsidian was purchased by Microsoft, so both Bethesda and Obsidian are under that umbrella.

        Looking at some of it:

        Project Lead: J.E. Sawyer.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sawyer

        He last did Penitment in 2022 at Obsidian.

        Executive Producer: Lawrence Liberty. Looks like he’s doing other things, last being Marvel Snap.

        Producer: Mikey Dowling

        He last did Inkulinati at Obsidian in 2023.

        Producer: Jason Fader. His last credit is the Fallout: New Vegas DLC Lonesome Road, so I doubt that he’s around.

        Producer: Matt Singh. Last credited on Fallout: New Vegas, so probably not around.

        Producer: Tess Treadwell. Last credited on South Park: The Stick of Truth in 2014, so probably not around.

        Additional Production: Brandon Adler. He was credited with “Additional System Design” on Pillars of Eternity II at Obsidian, with some playtesting elsewhere after that. Might be around.

        Addition’s Production: Matt Rorie. No credits since Fallout: New Vegas in 2010, probably out of the picture.

        Lead Artist: Joseph A. Sanabria. Last credited with Armikrog in 2015, so he’s probably out of the picture.

        Concept Artist/Vault Boy Artist: Brian Menze. Last credited with The Outer Worlds at Obsidian in 2019, so he might still be around.

        World Building Expert: Scott Everts. Ditto.

        User Interface Artist: Jason Sereno. Last credited on New Tales From the Borderlands from Gearbox in 2022, so he’s probably elsewhere.

        Character Artist: Daniel Alpert. Last credited for Pemitent at Obsidian, so probably available.

        Character Artist: Aaron Brown. Last credited for Planescape: Torment – Enhanced Edition at Beamdog, so he’s probably elsewhere.

        Character Artist: Kevin Manning. Last credited for Red Faction: Guerrilla - Re-Mars-tered at Volition in 2018, so he’s elsewhere and may out of the game.

        Environment Artist: Cochey Cantu. Last credited for LEGO 2k Drive at Visual Concepts Entertainment in 2023, so he’s probably elsewhere.

        Artist: Roger Chang. Last credited on Marvel Spider-Man 2 at Insomiac in 2023, so he’s probably elsewhere.

        I dunno. I’m not gonna go through the whole list, but I’d say from that sample that while there are still a number of Fallout: New Vegas people around at Obsidian, approximately 2/3rds are elsewhere.

        • fartsparkles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          7 months ago

          You forget the fact that if Obsidian were given the keys to Fallout again, I doubt they’d have much trouble enticing back the critical talent they would want back from FO:NV. Heck, who wouldn’t want to jump back into the series and do right by it given the fandom that has just come on board and the fandom still rooting for NV all these years later.

    • aeronmelon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      If talking to an NPC doesn’t catapult them 500 meters into the air, we’re not having a good time.

    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Bethesda games are so big that it would be basically impossible for them to be bugfree if they didnt have like 5 years worth of just bugfixing.

      • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I feel like that falls into three camps:

        • Stability issues. That’s really from the engine or similar, not the scripts. Starfield did well here. Fallout: New Vegas tended to have problems that accumulated for me over the course of a given game.

        • Performance issues. Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 4 both took increasingly longer to load the further into the game one was. I don’t recall Fallout 76 or Starfield doing this. Up until Starfield, the 3D games had various situations where one could see graphical artifacts.

        • Scripting issues, weird interactions between quests, etc. That’s been a problem for the whole Fallout series, including the isometric games – lots of scripts that can interact in weird ways. I even managed to break one Starfield mission last time I played, though fortunately could recover by restoring an earlier save, and that’s been pretty solid.