WinXP and (perhaps to a lesser extent) Win7 were decent tho Edit : said by someone that daily drives linux for like at least the last 4 years, 2 of which with tiling WMs
Im just gonna stick with windows 10. I only use it for gaming so idc about security updates.
I have it too, but I didn’t duel boot with Linux Mint. I use the Mint more. I liked 10. But the graphics on Mint just looks better to me. Maybe because it doesn’t hog resources like Windows.
Who won the duel? The boot or Mint?
Mint. But 10 is still there because I’m pragmatic. And I have some blender renders I haven’t transferred over yet.
You see, the joke is that “dual boot” means you have two drives/partitions you boot from.
“Duel boot” would imply your boot drives will take 10 paces apart from one another, turn, and shoot each other, one dying and the other emerging victorious.
Ubuntu advertises their paid cloud hosting service every time you install server manually.
Man, securing the privacy of a Windows PC can really wear you down. Remember all those times I spent tweaking the Group Policy Settings? Turning off each and every one of them was a chore, but the real kicker was having to do it all over again after every update.
And don’t even get me started on that
spyware.exein the task manager. It seemed like it was everywhere, hiding in plain sight and multiplying with each passing day. Finding and closing all those instances was a real headache.But the icing on the cake was the constant need to check the privacy settings after every update. I couldn’t afford to take my eyes off the ball, and the fear of something breaking or getting compromised was always present.
The whole experience left me feeling drained and frustrated. I mean, who needs that kind of stress in their life? That’s why I made the switch to Linux – it was a welcome relief and a breath of fresh air.
Not really a solution but couldn’t you have come up with a script to run after each update?
Are you me? This is exactly why I switched to Linux recently. Got tired of protecting myself from my ‘vendor’.
The domain blacklist I was using was probably excessive then.
Pi hole?
At the time it was one of the other options that did the same thing
To block Windows ads, literally all you have to do is edit the “hosts” file (C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts) with the loopback address assigned to Microsoft’s ad domains. Takes 30 seconds:
127.0.0.1 data.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 msftconnecttest.com
127.0.0.1 azureedge.net
127.0.0.1 activity.windows.com
127.0.0.1 bingapis.com
127.0.0.1 msedge.net
127.0.0.1 assets.msn.com
127.0.0.1 scorecardresearch.com
127.0.0.1 edge.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 data.msn.com
all you have to do to block ads on linux:
there was that one time Ubuntu added ads to the search menu tho
ubuntu isn’t real and doesnt exist.
And even then, all you would have to do is just stop using ubuntu. Which given the lifespan of a linux user, is a pretty normal occurrence.
well ubuntu is a shit stain in linux world anyway
I’m planning to shift to mint. Any problem with that?
LMDE and don’t look back.
nah it’s still good. I do prefer fedora myself though, but that’s just a preference
Use EndeavourOS
i messed with eos, it’s alright. I had some problems with the mirrors breaking, to which the solution to fixing the broken keyring trust was “untrust the key, and forcibly install it” which i didn’t really like. Other than that it seemed ok.
Run the eos updater tool and it takes care of all of that for you. The broken mirrors isnt an actual issue either since there’s redundant mirrors on the mirror list I believe
what? shouldn’t blocked domains be routed to 0.0.0.0 instead of loopback? This might cause the system generally to wait for a response instead of instantly realizing those domains don’t exists
Nice. Thanks for sharing!
How did you build this list? This is likely to break other things. Azureedge isn’t just for ads, and msftconnecttest is literally only used to detect if your internet connection is working.
i guess he booted up the system and saw what was using the internet
I got it from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJr2DcffquI
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=IJr2DcffquI
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
And people think Linux is complicated…
Does this fuck up other stuff though? I used the old telemetry set before but it prevents you from signing in on Xbox account in games
I’ve been using it for 6 months and it hasn’t fucked anything up. I use my Xbox account pretty regularly
Can’t tell if joking…
🏴☠️
That’s how I feel installing 5+ apps to modify Windows until it works like it did in Windows XP.
Well it’s good to see that - unlike Lemmy - Reddit users have found a way to bash Windows without using pre-transition images of Elliot Page. So they’ve got that going for them, at least. (I’m assuming this post is also poking fun at Reddit, for being riddled with ads)
Literally not a fucking clue what you’re talking about even after googling that name
Sorry. It’s from me being too online. Must. Put. Phone. Down.
Some troglodyte was comparing OSes to Elliot Page’s transition.
Well, yes, that transphobic post was very bad yesterday :( It was one person and the poster got a 30 days community ban on lemmy.world (check the modlog). The copy of the post was gone on lemmy.world but was still visible on lemmy.ml later, downvoted a lot.
Creds for leaving it up though.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but that was only one user who made that comparison, and they got downvoted hard for that.
It was two, fwiw. They were also upvoted, and engaged with (which is what the trolls want, of course). I shouldn’t have made that comment - it’s a sign that I’ve been on my phone too much this morning. I’ll amend it, and then go out for a walk or something.
Classy edit
Well hey, at least it “just works,” right?
still less hassle then using linux like dont get me wrong if all u wanna do is internet browsing or maybe do some office work sure its fine but for any else its a huge pain in the ass if its even possible.
Yeah linux sucks unless you want to browse the internet, do office work, or play games.
Anything else is basically impossible.
did you forget programming? its a breeze with linux
i wouldn’t put play games on that list by any stretch.
Basically every steam game just works, most other stuff just works with lutris, all retroarch emulators I’ve tried just work, there are obviously oodles of native linux games particularly Indies. Nvidia drivers mostly just work if you install proprietary (blurgh).
What doesn’t work?
plenty of multiplayer games dont work because their anti cheat disallows it including literally the only multiplayer game i play regularly. also tons of older games dont work.
Which ones don’t? I don’t play many MP games but non of the ones I have played have issues. Easy anticheat works for example, and you can run it in ring 3 and lie which is nice.
https://areweanticheatyet.com/
its not about if anticheat works or not some developers just adverbially decided to disable the ability to play on linux, it sucks but it just is what it is.
Weird, I suppose you could also VM it but it tends to have a performance hit without optimised hardware. I wonder how they check the environment it runs in and if you can just lie to the checks.
literally my whole steam library with 80 something games works with linux. just saying. and they are not some linux specific games either. fallout 4, mafias, baldurs gate 3, the forest, rdr 2, gta v etc.
your opinion is from 5 years ago. when have you last even tried to game on linux? and what are you even doing in linuxmemes with these comments? :D kernel level anti cheat is a different thing though
just go check protondb if you need some proof it has all the games on steam listed with info how well they work
last time i tried was when microsoft announced windows 10 would stop getting updates, because windows 11 looks dreadful and i wanted to know how viable linux was. answer not at all atleast for me.
lmao. the fact that kernel-level anti cheat multiplayers don’t work don’t work on linux don’t mean you can’t game on linux or that it is bad experience. a lot of people don’t play those and they are mostly put on competitive game. steam has literslly brought thousands of games to linux in just a few years
out of 1000 top games on steam 77% has either platinum or gold rating in terms of woking. I’m sorry linux isn’t viable for gaming?
and we literally have linux gaming handheld, steam deck. which has over 4000 games with steam verified status and something like 14000 gold or platinum status games
The last time I ran Linux on my main gaming rig I had a couple of key problems that largely made me call it quits:
- Games with gold and platinum ratings on WineDB (this was about the time Proton was newly released) would require far too much fiddling to get working if I could get them working at all.
- A couple of fairly uncommon games I played a lot at the time had weird issues with user-generated content related to filesystem and library case-sensitivity differences.
- Game crashes from content conflicts more often than not created system crashes, which both obscured crash dialogues which would normally point me to the content to explore why it was crashing, and extended the amount of time needed to troubleshoot an install and get it working
I’ll probably try it again at some point in the next handful of years, especially since the Linux desktop has come so far in the 3 years or so since I last tried it out. I already run Linux on about half of the systems I use regularly, so its not like I’m completely out of the game.
yeah I definetly know what you mean. with wine it definetly was pain in the ass to make the configuration by yourself to every game. luckily we now have proton doing excellent work for that. and if it’s not a steam game we have lutris doing excellent work for that with their install scripts.
we even have glorius eggroll releasing wine-ge and proton-ge where they apply plenty of game specific patches
in steam I feel like maybe 2 out of 10 gold rated games have some little issues, and even then I just have to copy paste launch comand from proton db, no need to fiddle around too much
not only was i talking about my use case and experiences, lets be very clear “gold” rating is unacceptable and the fact that “it works when u fuck around with it a bit” is the gold standard for linux gaming and the state of half the games is already terrible. the fact that when i say doing anything in linux besides absolute basic tasks is a pain in the ass yalls response is u that u can make it work which is bizzare making it work IS a pain in the ass.
in my experience gold games work almost alwaus just fine. I don’t expect platinum rating on a lot of games since a lot of modern games are just as unstable on windows as they are on linux. In my opinion the meaning of gold rating has changed a lot. 2010s with wine gold used to have quite a lot of tinkering but with proton nowadays it’s usually either just fine or solved with 1 or 2 launch commands copy pasted from protondb. some games have even slightly better performance on linux with the right hardware.
sorry for starting the whole argument but I also don’t know what kind of answers you expected when you came to linux community trash talking linux with things that a lot of linux users don’t agree with. your use cases happens to be one worst the worst though on linux.
but the fact that you cant use professional cad software and play games that are specifically made impossible to play on linux don’t mean that you can’t do anything but use office and browser and I still do think that statement is stupid as hell.
but sorry again for getting so heated, I’m going to stop arguing now since neither of us are going to change their minds and this contributes absolutely nothing
You’re in the wrong neighborhood, pal.
it’s all about learning a new workflow. having to go to a website amd downloading exe and going trough an installation wizard from the most basic things like programming language compiler or a web browser seems so backwards for me now after using only linux for 3 years
what are u even talking about getting used to linux wont suddenly make autodesk and a million other software vendors start making linux versions of their software, nor will it make game publishers make linux versions of their games much less stop them from being assholes about drm and anticheat.
just addressing your “paim in the ass” statement. it is true what you’re saying about propiertary software that is not available to linux but there are linux alternatives. which like I said, is the matter of a new workflow. work enviroment is a different though if they require certain software to be used. what comes to gaming, huge steps are made towards gaming on linux and most games work just fine with proton. games with heavy kernel level anticheats are a different thing though.
edit: and everything except browsing internet and office work is a big fucking strech
there are no linux alternatives for some stuff i use, i would need to use wine or emulate and whether it works properly if at all its basically random. and sure gaming on linux is the best it has ever been but considering the starting point that says basically nothing its passable at best, and sure u could just decide not play certain games but like u could also just use windows and play what u want.
also sure internet browsing and spreadsheets or writing stuff, just basic office work is the entire use case for a lot of people which is why i clarified that its fine for that but thats just not the use case for me.
I would like to know what software are you using that don’t have linux alternatives.
and you’re still downplaying linux a lot. programmin is huge thing on linux and propably most people use it for that. there are a lot of digital art software which is made for linux. you can do cad work with freecad, altough it has quite different workflow than a lot of other cad software
just autodesks suit of cad programs. and free cad is not an acceptable replacement at all much less the free versions of autocad and revit, not only are alternative versions less powerful, most of them fuck up when exporting in the file formats for the programs most people use which creates problems for them which is just not acceptable.
then theres stuff i need for school like lockdown browser and mutisim are the main ones multisim has a web version but its borderline useless. plus a bunch of other weird ancient software ill used for like one semester cuz the professor was feeling it and its very hit an miss whether those have a native linux version or not.
look im sure u could make it work but thats my point in windows everything just works, u could fuck around with these programs and get some of them working and get adequate replacements for other and dualboot for fucking lockdown browser, but thats my point exacly its more of a pain in the ass to make this shit work and make everything else in the future work than just fucking around with windows once to turn of all the anti pravacy shit, u know which is what i said in my comment the original one, which yall are ignoring because ur brain is so linux poisoned that when someone says doing x in linux is annoying ur response is “u can make it work tho so its fine and ur wrong and doing x is overated anyways why don u do y instead”
How exactly? When using Linux, I get similar problems to those I get in Windows but in contrast to Windows, I’m able to find a solution and solve them.
in that there is no linux versions of tons of software i use and cant just decide to stop using and trying to get the windows versions working on linux is a pain in the ass and half the time it doesnt work.
The Linux infiltration of PC gaming communities has been one of the most successful covert operations in the history of espionage. So successful that the agents don’t even need to hide their identities.
Sorry, joke just flew over my head
They came for the gamers-….
Alright but whenever they actually accomplish it, you have to give them some props.
Tell me again how Linux is hard to use
The biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. Linux just has so many different ways to configure it
As a Linux main, I don’t think it’s hard, but it’s also still not as good as Windows in some ways I find important. Fractional scaling for instance. I had a different resolutions multimonitor setup, and I definitely had more issues than on Windows. Also, now with two same reso monitors, I still have to switch to Windows to RDP into my work Win machine, because on Linux it’s so blurry due to difference in scaling, it hurts my eyes. Of course, I’m most likely in minority of a minority, but it’s still a thing.
Fucking with display drivers to get your shit to boot is several magnitudes harder than ignoring an ad.
At this point I’m not sure if this is a meme or what…
Last time I switched distro a few years ago I tried a dozen of them (dropped the ISOs on a Ventoy drive). None of them had trouble getting a usable desktop of correct resolution.
Now sure, if you want an optimal, accelerated driver, on some of them you may have to figure out that distro’s preferred way of doing it. But that’s also true on Windows. And on Windows the vast majority of people don’t bother beyond the install, because it makes no difference to them.
Optimal drivers are essential only to a small subset of users like gamers and I expect a PC gamer to be able to figure out how to install a driver.
But I repeat it’s not even an issue on most modern distros. (I have an Nvidia card too.)
Absolutely not. Just the other day I saw a post about one of the desktops getting something close to working DPI scaling out of the box. And no, you don’t need to figure out shit on Windows. You download the driver, double click and it’s done. The only thing even moderately annoying is HDR calibration which is a mess in itself on Linux. I understand Linux is getting closer, but it’s not on par with ease of use.
And no, you don’t need to figure out shit on Windows. You download the driver, double click and it’s done.
Manually downloading drivers? How savage.🧐 *AMD and Intel master race has things working out of the box since many years*
Jesus Christ, of course Nvidia has the base drivers. Y’all are just pouty over the reality check. Until Linux desktop is easier and better supported Windows will continue strong.
Exactly this.
I’ve seen “computer illiterate” folk using windows computers without properly working graphic drivers causing scrolling to look horrific or being limited to something like 1280x800 while owning a FullHD screen that I’m 100% convinced something like this doesn’t matter for most “normal” users.
The main issue for them is getting it installed in the first place. They buy a computer, turn it on, windows with all its bloatware is there and they use it. Would it boot to any kind of Linux desktop they would use this and most probably wouldn’t even consciously recognise that they aren’t using windows anymore.
The main issue is ms office. The way people use MS word is so ingrained that even Microsoft has problems when they moved to the ribbon menus.
There was a straight up user revolt.
That’s why MS will make sql server work on Linux but NEVER office.
Fucking with display drivers to get your shit to boot is several magnitudes harder than ignoring an ad.
Found the Nvidia user.
And? Oh look at me I bought the best product in it’s price class, I’m a niche user or something.
Year of the Linux desktop 2024.
Oh look at me I bought the
bestworst product…… for use with Linux
FTFY
NVidia being the worst choice for Linux is hardly news.
Year of the Linux desktop 2024
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/9/23954205/valve-steam-deck-multiple-millions 🤷
Valve invests billions of dollars and loses money on 4M decks and everyone is screaming success 🤷♂️
EA resold more copies of Skyrim on switch.
Valve invests billions of dollars and loses money on 4M decks and everyone is screaming success 🤷♂️
You’re the one who bought the wrong tool (NVidia GPU) for the job. Blame nobody but yourself. Intel and AMD is fine since at least 15 years.
No, I didn’t. I have a faster GPU at a lower price with my timing and I can play every single one of my games. It’s easy and I don’t have to do shit. I don’t have to make sure drm doesn’t work and I don’t have to find some utility it script to get DPI resolution scaling working. You’re just pouty because Linux isn’t a good solution for a large chunk of users.
If it weren’t Nvidia’s fault, like, as in they don’t support linux on purpose “because fuck you, you do not matter, you’ll use the OS we choose and like it,” maybe you’d have a point. They could do it, easily, but they don’t because they do not care about their users.
Doesn’t matter to the users. Yeah it sucks. Doesn’t change the hurdles it adds.
Doesn’t change the fact that those hurdles are caused by nvidia on purpose and they could fix it tomorrow if they wanted, either. Don’t be mad at linux about falling victim to it, be mad at nvidia for doing it. That matters to the users, even if they falsely blame linux about it.
Completely informing the thread 🤣👌👍🤷♂️
Found the Nvidia user.
Nvidia? That small gpu maker? They are so rare in the market!
They also historically are terrible on Linux. Now that AI has taken off there is a little more incentive not to suck
Now that AI has taken off there is a little more incentive not to suck
Their AI accelerators don’t have graphics output ports.
Nah, the last time this user tried Linux was probably 2005. You can get to a desktop and install proprietary drivers from the app store relatively painlessly on most distros.
It is interesting how many people reports that distros does not work out-of-the-box. While for me, most things work. It’s hard to partition things correctly but that’s that…
Commits to tf, open tofu, CNCF, Apache. You’ve used my code today in all probabilty. You ain’t got shit for an answer to the constant support questions for Linux desktop so you back to baseless claims.l on my resume.
Now, send me the copy pasta with do you know who I am as if you weren’t the one making up crap for karma points.
What ever makes you feel like the bigger man. The most annoying thing I run into are distros not supporting proprietary codecs and formats out of the box.
If that’s where we’re at right now I’m pretty happy with the state of Linux, especially since it’s only a couple of distros that intentionally do that.
What ever makes you feel like the bigger man.
But that person claims to have contributed some code to server software, so he’s clearly super qualified to comment about 2005 desktop stuff!!11!1
The most annoying thing I run into are distros not supporting proprietary codecs and formats out of the box.
It’s not like Windows supports all the codecs out of the box either. Downloading something like VLC (or insert your competing favorite playback thingie here) is pretty much required when dealing with offline media files.
Karma doesn’t exist on Lemmy as of version 19.0
Nope, last Christmas I struggled to get Linux Mint to play a Steam game using Proton. Booting would lead to a crash, adding some flags would lead to the game being incredibly laggy. Mint had an option for proprietary drivers, but the game would crash regardless of the flags. In the end, turns out Mint was downloading the wrong drivers, and I had to manually download the correct ones from Nvidia’a website to finally get the game to work with average performance.
It took multiple hours of troubleshooting during my one Christmas vacation of the year. Meanwhile my brother, who had an identical laptop playing the same game on Windows, ran it flawlessly with great performance.
Yep. I have a PC that was given to me by a friend, we aren’t all able to afford the most FOSS hardware and software…
It’s SUPER hard to use. I had to download an .iso from my distro’s website, make a bootable USB drive, plug that into my computer and boot into it, answer a few questions and wait a few minutes, A FEW MINUTES… can you believe that??
And then It had the audacity to give me a super easy, working, private OS! Like what the fuck!
How bloody dare you make my life difficult. I was expecting to be TRACKED and EXPLOITED and BOMBARDED with ads all day.
Instead I get all this calm and happiness??
FFS!
It didn’t affect me, due to using startallback. It replaces start menu, taskbar and explorer. So my start menu is Win7 and my task and explorer are Win10.
It used to have a 100 day all access free trial and was 5 bucks, but I haven’t checked lately. I gotta keep a Windows machine around for art. My Gaomon tablet was able to use wacom drivers on Linux with some terminal tinkering, but it couldn’t map the scroll wheel by design, which was a deal breaker.
