it didn’t break anything “so far”
Don’t worry. When you reboot, your kernel will have magically disappeared!
Updating pandoc on arch feels like 250 packages, so you don’t have to forget updating for this experience.
I once updated shortly before pandoc got updated, and I have the habit of running yay again so it says that no packages need updating. On this occasion however, I suddenly had more updates than before
Laughs in NixOS, smiles in btrfs snapshots.
Btrfs snapshots not always work tho), i tell this story for *th time on lemmy but my fedora 38 btrfs broke completely from update to 39 and when i tried revert to 38 with help of btrfs snapshots, what came out is weird mix of 38 and 39 and when i reverted again, my whole ssd on which fedora btrfs was installed, this ssd locked completely, on hardware level, even though it was brand new, 2 weeks of usage by me, i fortunately repaired ssd myself and flashed lmde6 on it, but avoided btrfs and fedora after that
Yeah, also a bit wary of btrfs. I sure hope some day bcachefs can be the true cow filesystem in Linux. There is hope, it is pretty good already.
NixOS definitely solves the issue of rollbacks the best here. And FreeBSD.
FreeBSD has rollbacks like Nix?
Me after updating 39 packages and therefore killing my audio:
Last time my Ubuntu Linux broke anything during an update is over 15 years ago. Last time a version upgrade failed was probably too over 5-10 years ago. I literally can’t remember those times
I’m on the Ubuntu 24.04 beta and this is what I get in a day.
ITT: People who have never heard of Crontab
That’ll be so handy because your system will break itself automatically!
What are you trying to say with this? You think running automatic, unattended updates with a cronjob is a good idea?
Its gentoo it broke everythihg because portage is for galazy brain people
Soooo many man pages
Or something not working, so you ignore the issue and update around it until the updates allow it to be fixed.
Use glorious nixos. Never fear anything breaking. And even if you manage to do so just roll back in the boot menu or terminal.
Ahh until something hangs when updating grub. Had it happen twice over the last couple of months. No real biggie as it’s not the hardest thing to recover from / easy enough to pull my config and rebuild.
Maybe it’s me, maybe it’s Nixos or Grub.
That’s why I use Gentoo. If something breaks I just boot system from external drive and solve the issue. Or even if bootloader breaks I can use kernel from external drive, but boot into main system.
Why would you update grub?
Also I am not sure if I am even using grub. Does systemd have a bootloader?
Normal people don’t change their bootloader that often.
Yeah, systemd-init. Pretty sure the GUI installer uses systemd-init – never broke once for me.
I’ll probs have to migrate back over, grub will be written to on every rebuild for what I’m assuming is adding entries. Not sure of the inner workings all I know is it’s caused me headaches a couple of times now.
Spell it with me D-E-B-I-A-N
Let me guess, you use Arch when writing your bronie fanfics?
Nope. Look at pfp.
Imagine having pfps enabled while browsing Lemmy. Some people are wild.
UBUNTU?
Can’t wait to get KDE 6 in 2027!
I use GNOME btw
Update your system frequently,
that minimizes the chance of things breaking in my experience.But not too frequently. Updating too often on Arch will increase your chances of something breaking. Updating once a week or twice a week gives the developers some time to fix bugs and make changes to other packages as needed
Your comment is my reasoning why I use Manjaro :P
All the Arch niceness,
with fewer bugs / breakage
and easier to use.Sure you might get an issue from outdated dependencies from AUR packages from time to time, but the chance / impact of those is usually rather small.
I only ever update between projects - no way am I going to break something in the middle of everything.
This time, jump to new gnome means broken extensions as usual, and a hilarious one: qbittorrent doesn’t show it’s window in Wayland (gnome-with-X works). The soft is running, it there in the list of apps, there’s even a big X “Close Window” button on Zoom Out but no actual window.
Eh. Lol?
I only ever update between projects - no way am I going to break something in the middle of everything.
I learned to do that the hard way…
My roommate will have 400+ updates waiting because “something breaks every time I update.”
My roommate will have 400+ updates waiting because “something breaks every time I update.”
Sounds like your roomie uses Ubuntu with a bunch of random PPAs.
I update my packages every day on debian. I have yet to have something break. The only issue I ever had was steam got uninstalled when dist-upgrading from debian 11 to 12. Promptly reinstalled, of course all my games were still on disk.
I use a cron job but have
alias updog='sudo apt update | lolcat && sudo apt upgrade -y | lolcat'
for when I feel like making sureYou should look into
unattended-upgrades
Rolling release master race checking for updates several times per day.
Rolling release, update every now and then, 4000+ packages is common. Nothing ever breaks.
Thanks zipper!
I’m guessing you mean zypper?
I did.
However my zipper never breaks either. So both work, although in that case it’s loosely related.
i haven’t checked for updates on one of my machines for like 7 months now. some packages are partial upgrades (hilariously, xz is currently on the backdoored version and I don’t care to fix it)
the thing survived multiple 500+ package upgrades from partial upgrade state and has been running for like 2.5 years nowCannot update 600 packages because library-you’ve-never-heard-of conflicts with what-the-fuck-even-is-a-polypterodaclib?
I haven’t had those issues on Tumbleweed. It gets massive updates all the time but everything seems to go just fine.
KDE’s qt6 transition sure was something
polypterodaclib
Fucking hell, I nearly spat out my coffee at that one word. Bravo.
emerge --sync?
