I think AI is cool, but I hate seeing it forced on everyone. I also hate programs trying to run on startup without me explicitly saying so (cough Discord Teams Spotify Steam Teams MuseHub Teams Slack cough)
Remember when MS brought Skype, and had it pre-installed and running at startup for every Windows PC, and you really had to fight to make it go away.
And then COVID hit, and everyone urgently needed video conferencing and had Skype pre-installed, and still no-one used it?
If the pandemic had happened 10 years earlier, I’m pretty sure Skype would have been the choice everyone reached for
How Microsoft managed to so thoroughly squander a market dominant position and generally positive public option to the extreme they have I’ll never understand
Even did a two-fer by destroying the progress Lync was making on the business side by rebranding it Skype for Business, while simultaneously losing interest in improving the platform, making it fall behind the curve badly and causing business to see it as more of a toy by branding it like a consumer product
I really feel the naming teams 3 times
Teams is so garbage that it’s actually like 5 programs all called Teams trying to launch on startup. I have no idea which one is the real Teams.
What a wonderfully mature and unbiased article to be finding on a technology community.
Being bothered by a company forcibly installing more ads for a trash anti feature to your computer isn’t “bias”.
Adding a small flavor of satire to commentary on ridiculous abuse of market dominance to establish a foothold in a new space isn’t immature, either.
What ads? It’s the actual feature, being provided as a free update.
Turn it off if you don’t want it.
What ads?
Have you actually used Windows?
I think there were some ads in the little side widget screen that took 2 seconds to disable so it’s now kind of usable. Anything else?
it’s gross and I hate it and stop it right now
I’m going to say it before anyone else does.
Linux.
As much as i agree, the vast majority of people will just continue using what they had before, and still complain about how nothing works
and the vast majority of Linux Devs will just continue building what they were building before, and still complain how windows users dont migrate to Linux (cough usability cough)
If linux came preinstalled by default and vendor supported, regular people would use linux as well. Usability is actually pretty good these days, arguably higher than Windows since you don’t have to deal with this BS.
Yes, you can buy Dell laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled and supported, maybe Lenovos, not sure, but it’s not the default, available only on custom builds online and on business (expensive) laptops, so most regular people don’t bother.
Edit: well, there’s the SteamDeck as an example of mainstream vendor supported system with linux, I guess. Some people go through the trouble of installing Windows on it, but most people don’t bother and stick to what it came with.
This. People buy hardware and use whatever comes with it.
This is why and how ChromeOS became used. Google didn’t just put it on a website, they got manufacturers to make products with it.
The only reason I don’t switch to Linux is because of all the nerds on here telling everyone to switch to Linux.
But seriously, I use my laptop for work and I’ve used Windows for years and know how it works. I don’t want to switch to a completely new OS that I don’t have a clue how to use, especially when I need it for work. I also don’t know whether the software I use will work on it either.
If there’s an easy tutorial and a way of knowing whether everything I need will work, I might consider trying it.
It’s silly how people react to this, a feature that can be turned off with a simple setting toggle, by recommending that people should instead install a whole new operating system and tech stack. If opening the preferences menu and clicking a toggle is too complicated or too much of a hassle then installing Linux isn’t going to be better.
It’s not just one thing. It’s been a barrage of crap for years and years. That pile of manure gets awfully heavy as you make it taller.
As an example. they still haven’t fixed the Settings/Control Panel stuff. That has been in the works for what, over a decade now? A core feature just…allowed to rot.
It isn’t about flipping a switch, it about how many times I’ve had to flip that fucking switch because a company keeps changing how I have my PC setup because they want more money.
They’ve never had this feature before.
And as far as I’m aware Copilot is a free service.
This is an unpopular opinion every time I bring it up. Usability and consistency sucks in Linux. There are just so many basic things that will frustrate users coming from Windows. I can’t even get my laptop (Framework 13) to sleep properly. Then there are is still a ton where you have to use the command line to get it done. A user shouldn’t have to go into the command line to get their fingerprint reader to work because the GUI doesn’t work properly.
The only thing that actually makes Linux practical for average users these days is that most everything is now web based by default so most users only interact with a couple programs for most of their day.
The Linux community really needs to get some UX experts in their projects and actually make an effort to improve usability rather than just doing it the way they like to do it.
When did Microsoft forget how to do stuff? No one ever said: Wow! I really, really like being forced to use something! My reaction to being forced to use it didn’t instantly diminish my desire to use this product!
Even IF their product is good, they crush my desire to try it with shit like this.
Ultimately, most people stay with the default option, that’s why they have to be aggressive. Look at the amount of screenshots even in advanced PC communities with ugly useless search bar enabled, which is taking 1/3 of the taskbar. I’m not even speaking about casual users who have no idea that it can be disabled.
So they have to be aggressive by automatically adding garbage nobody wants because otherwise people won’t bother activating said garbage they don’t want?
No, because most people stick with the default option regardless.
I’m just trying to understand my our point… You argue they have to do this because people won’t bother on their own… Then proceed to back your statement with an example where MS added garbage and people don’t bother or can’t figure to remove it…
I mean, you and I known MS could simply ask… They don’t because they want that slide that says x many million users of Copilot…
I mean, you and I known MS could simply ask…
No.
https://thedecisionlab.com/intervention/how-default-settings-doubled-organ-donation-rates-in-the-us https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3855900/ https://sparq.stanford.edu/solutions/opt-out-policies-increase-organ-donation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458339/
That’s the best known case, but it’s not limited to organ donation of course.
they want that slide that says x many million users of Copilot…
I didn’t argue with that.
yeah, it’s fucking exhausting to go through and disable the 10’s or 100’s of options they set by default that you don’t want. I have a computer that I have disabled updates on because they kept resetting my deeper configs with updates. I’m not getting another windows computer unless I have to because god that shit took so long to set up.
Why not leave the defaults as-is? They’re probably set like that for a reason.
Didn’t they already do this? I thought I remember after a Windows 11 update a couple of months ago I had that copilot shit on the taskbar and auto-enabled.
I disabled that shit immediately
I’m in the EU. I already uninstalled Copilot.
FWIW and for anyone else reading this, I am running Win10 Pro in the US on my work machine and it let me uninstall Copilot just now when I tried it.
I do think that microsoft copilot is good enough for alot of people. I really like it, much more than chat gpt. And that they give you “GPT 4” for free which is cool
Would I love it being forced? No
They will create the same situation as Ubuntu Snap. Is Snap bad? Actually not. Is everything else regarding Snap like Snap Store or the fact that they force it down your throat good? No
Copilot likes you back! Actually it has fallen in love with you. Now it downloads automatically wherever you go. Even in the shower when you’re pretending to not touch yourself. Oh it knows everything! C’mon think about purchasing someth…too late! It’s already delivered! Pilot cancelled your meeting with Stacy Fredrickson. It’s jealous of her. But don’t worry because pilot can have any boob size you prefer. In fact pilot is any ethnicity you are attracted to and is waiting for you in bed right now. Just pick up the various items from the porch to make a sensitive feedback gizmo so you can pilot can be together foreve…30 years or so per the contract. Anyway, Microsoft is proud to present pilot. Pilot would like you to please call her Jessica. And if you use your last name with her, she will get you optimized seating and personalized flight paths.
I’m going to say the L word
You better say the G word first
Debian + KDE Plasma, folks.
Believe me, you don’t need Windows.
If you are not a creator or a gamer may be…
I run DaVinci resolve in Linux just fine…
Lol try to run the top 3 games and tell me.
Not sure what you mean by “top 3 games”, while I’ve never been interested in anything that uses anticheat, literally everything else I try to play on it works
And for anticheat stuff, this explains pretty well what does/ doesn’t work
Interesting site. That’s what I did mention by top 3: LoL, Fortnite, or Valorant are not supported due to anticheat. Those are the most played games.
Interestingly those are all games where the devs themselves decided not to be compatible, LoL was even compatible earlier this year before they implemented their current anti cheat system
Personally speaking client side anti cheats, particularly those that run at kernel level, are something you’d have to pay me a significant amount to install on my computer, but that’s me
Linux is great for both these days.
Debian for work, Mint for work and games, Manjaro for latest & greatest of Linux (and games) without headache.
Arch for those who love pain and micromanagement.
I don’t know what to think about the rushed inclusion of Copilot. It’s so very very flawed.
The only thing I can think of is that users are training it by using it and therefore Microsoft is getting free labor from you (as well as search/advertising revenue through their lock screens, dynamic as based backgrounds, live tiles, etc).
I think we’re the product here guys.
Of course we are. We’ve known this all along.
Ever since Windows 10, Microsoft has been treating Windows as an “OS as a service,” and their expected revenue source (at least from home users) is no longer license sales but whatever they can extract from users via subscriptions, ads, and selling their tracking data.
