Google would really like it if everyone just paid for YouTube Premium instead.
  • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    This is just ads. They know that people will fight back and found a solution.

    They want some to think it’s dead.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    3 months ago

    If they say like that, it means that’s now is allowed to make a third party youtube client with login support?

    I’d immediately install an officially sanctioned third party youtube app without shorts and without the algorithmic feed, if all i would need to do is let the phone play ads when i’m doing something else

  • RBG@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    As soon as 3rd party clients don’t work as they do anymore, I am stopping going to YouTube. Simple as, I know it doesn’t matter as a singular thing, I am just one user. Was the same with reddit, now I am here but reddit is still going (how well we don’t need to debate now).

    • penquin@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      You’re not alone. Don’t think that. A lot of people will do the same. I’m right there with ya. Fuck YouTube

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Please download and archive your favorite channels and videos!

    Host them yourself to watch them locally.

    Especially do this for educational material, share it wide and far!

    We are entering a very dark age of techno-dystopia, we need to fight it with everything we have. Pirate, seed, screen-record, download, archive, share, never give up.

  • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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    3 months ago

    That content does not belong to YouTube. And they also do not pay for 99% of it.

    YouTube depends on people to use it for it’s existence. They also depend on those users to upload content so that YouTube can then treat that content as if it is its own and monetize it.

    If I was in such a precarious position I wouldn’t go about making the experience crappy for those users that I’m desperately dependent upon.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 months ago

      youtube hosts, handles bandwidth, provides creator tools, deals with monetization, handles royalties, and creates the platform…

      • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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        3 months ago

        That’s nice. Do they also create the content for the platform that is by far the most costly part of it? Or have they simply found a way to monetize content that does not belong to them?

          • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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            3 months ago

            Does every single creator get paid for their work and the value that they add to the platform? Or does YouTube arbitrarily get to decide who gets a tiny piece of the revenue from the content that YouTube doesn’t own?

  • Yardy Sardley@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Honestly, huge shout out to the wave of enshittification crashing through Google and reddit and forcing me off their platforms. Decade-long debilitating addiction solved.

  • Adalast@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Gotta love this shit. Conservatives/companies: “Let the market decide!” The market: “We are tired of you cramming ads down our throats and fundamentally do not want it and will actively fight you on it.” Companies: “Waaaaaa, they are fighting us.”

      • Adalast@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        “A company should be able to decide not to do business with individuals for ideological reasons.”

        Twitter, Facebook, etc. start filtering misinformation and banning offenders.

        “Mah freedoms are being infringed!”

  • Lad@reddthat.com
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    3 months ago

    It’s funny that free third party apps literally have more features and are more user friendly than the official app with premium.

    Why the fuck would I pay for less when I can get more for free?

    • okamiueru@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Some years ago ago, I was a happy subscriber to Google Music. But, they added it to the graveyard, and instead grafted on some music playing functionality to YouTube and called it YouTube Music. So, I went back to Spotify.

      Then I started paying for YouTube Premium Lite. It wasn’t unreasonably expensive, although it was a bit annoying I couldn’t just have “YouTube” in the household, like with Netflix. So if wife would cast a video to the TV, it would play with ads.

      It was about a year ago, when Google starting cracking down on adblockers, that they also removed an option to pay for the service. I think YouTube Premium Lite wasn’t a thing in the US (correct me if I’m wrong), but they removed YT Premium Lite, and the only option left was a twice as expensive YouTube Premium bundle that included YouTube Music.

      Tldr: fucked up Google Music, then removed an option to pay for YouTube premium, leaving a fairly expensive alternative with the pile of shit they replaced Google music with. It’ll be a rough time if they manage to force ads. I won’t pay for it, out of principle.

      Edit: I looked at the numbers again. I’d have to pay more for YouTube than for the highest Netflix tier. It’s more than Prime and HBO combined. They also don’t have to front large sums to fund risky projects. If they didn’t include YouTube Music, I might have considered it. But with it, it just pisses me off, they can go get f.ed

    • Spotlight7573@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      To be fair, one of the apps mentioned, [Re]Vanced, is literally just the stock app with extra features patched in and the premium features enabled for free (like no ads and downloads). It makes sense that it would be more user friendly. Allowing that modified version doesn’t get them any revenue though while still costing them to host and serve the content to those users.

      At least with NewPipe it supports multiple sites and is its own app with their own code and UI.

      • MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyzEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I don’t understand this argument because NewPipe still gets the video from YouTube (primarily), costing them to host…

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I pay $4/mo, mainly for YouTube music (I’m part of a friend’s family plan).

      It’s pretty convenient since you can use the background audio on an iPad as well - I don’t use it often but it’s nice when I do. And there’s no ads there it’s pretty insane seeing the level of ads when I try and use my work phone which I’m not signed into.

      Also, you can make channels within your single goggle account so I made one for my mom and bro so they get no ads aswell. They have to sign in to my acct which can feel a little sketch but I trust them since they’re just using the YT app on their TVs. They stay in their own user acct. and it doesn’t affect my history or anything

    • frunch@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I think there’s a couple things at play:

      • You know enough to find a different app and make it do what you need it to. Not a hard thing, but something many non-tech savvy people could struggle with, or more likely–

      • People often will just use what’s there. We know we have options, we are aware of the privacy concerns… but many people simply aren’t and/or don’t care enough to do anything about it.

      We spend a lot of time here, so it seems to us like second nature to avoid intrusive apps… I find in my day-to-day life not many people are talking about that kind of stuff, or don’t have much knowledge/experience in that realm. (I realize that is anecdotal).

      I 100% agree with your statements–just trying to rationalize how so many people end up using/staying with these ever-worsening services/apps…

      • FlihpFlorp@lemm.eeEnglish
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        3 months ago

        To prove your point I am person #2, I know things liked invidious and piped exist but I just idk haven’t gotten around to it

  • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Fuck them. I’d rather donate quadruple the money for premium to my favourite creators directly than give a single penny to this parasitic mega corporation.

    The issue is not only the ads, it’s the stupid shit it throws you to keep you hooked, it’s the stupid shorts that literally no one asked for, it’s every stupid little thing that fights for your attention. Basically the app doesn’t work for you, it works against you. That’s not the case with third party apps, they have you, the user, in mind, not their profits.

  • Shurimal@kbin.social
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    3 months ago

    Third party apps: “OK. We’ll show ads. Muted. Behind a black overlay. If we really can’t find a workaround.”