• Lizardking27@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Keeping your cats indoors won’t solve anything. Housecats aren’t destroying the bird population, feral cats are. If you want to help, volunteer with your local vet or animal control to capture, spay/neuter, then re-release stray cats.

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        3 months ago

        That study’s been going around for years in the media, but mainly because it’s sensational. If you actually read the article, I’d hardly say it’s very convincing, or very accurate. Also, this.

        Existing estimates of mortality from cat predation are speculative and not based on scientific data13,14,15,16 or, at best, are based on extrapolation of results from a single study18. In addition, no large-scale mortality estimates exist for mammals, which form a substantial component of cat diets.

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        Indoor cats are not a problem because they are indoors. Outdoor cats thar come inside sometimes are a problem indeed but most of them were not adopted they just apeared out of nowhere and you now think it’s your cat. So it was feral at some point or at least was born from one.

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        3 months ago

        “About a third of the problem” So, not the primary cause (or solution.)

        https://doi.org/10.1038/ncomms2380

        “We estimate that free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3–4.0 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals annually. Un-owned cats, as opposed to owned pets, cause the majority of this mortality.”

        The article also states the following regarding more popular studies in the media involving pet cats: “The magnitude of mortality they cause in mainland areas remains speculative, with large-scale estimates based on non-systematic analyses and little consideration of scientific data”

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      3 months ago

      It will solve for your cat staying not dead, not shitting in other people’s yards, and not fucking other cats.

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      3 months ago

      They’re built to kill. Crazy good reflexes and eyesight, amazing jump height, claws that grab hold of tree branches, feathers, and skin very nicely. There are a bunch of strays where I live, and they are murdering machines when they don’t have a bowl of food plopped in front of them twice a day at their leisure.

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      Don’t know for birds but apparently they can win a fight with snake because they have better reaction time. So maybe something similar is contributing here too

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      The only reason why cats aren’t hunting us down right now is because we’re too big to be prey. I read somewhere a long time ago that domestic cats have one of the highest predation success rate in the mammalian class. Meaning once they choose to actually try to hunt something they usually get it.

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      3 months ago

      Patience mostly I think. At least with rodent they smell a trail and then just sit there for hours and hours until one walks near enough.

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    3.5 billion birds are killed in North America per year? I didn’t know anywhere near that number even existed.

    But then again…

    Wikipedia says there are about 7.5 million square miles in the US and Canada, so that’s over 400 birds killed per square mile, per year, on average.

    That’s amazing, no?

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      Misconception. Birdkiller Georg has 3 billion dead birds a year and is also known as New York City

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        I checked again and yeah, it’s more like 9.5 million square miles, so an average of more like 370 bird deaths per square mile, per year. But now that I know that includes chickens and turkeys, and Mexico and Greenland and the Bahamas, it’s OK.

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      There are more than 8 billion chickens slaughtered every year in the US alone, to give some perspective.

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    On a serious note, the problem with wind turbines is not the total number of birds they strike but the species. Larger birds of prey seem particularly susceptible. Tough this risk can be easily mitigated by not placing the wind turbines directly in their primary habitat or migration paths.

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      I was going to say, I doubt your pet tabby is killing any California condors at any appreciable rate.

      Amazing how easy it is to bias people with data though.

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      I think windows are that high because birds think they can go through them, they probably don’t think they can go through buildings, but who knows?

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        i would assume so, but most sky scrapers are entirely glass, and those technically aren’t windows from the outside. So do those count?

        Though i guess they also have air patterns surrounding them that would make it difficult to bonk into.

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      Not sure if you’re making a joke, but windows kill birds because they’re transparent and birds fly into them not realizing it’s there. The rest of the building doesn’t really kill birds because they won’t fly into it.

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    3 months ago

    I know a lot of people don’t like Andrew Lloyd Webber but killing yourself is a bit much