• SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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    Way ahead of you. What benefit is there even in federating with Threads? I tried looking at the front page and it’s almost exclusively “ads as posts” or wannabe influencers trying to attract an audience.

    Even wilder, most of the posts Threads show me on the front page have like, less than 10 replies. I saw one (1) post with close to 200 replies. Even the Fediverse has more engagement than this!

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      The Fediverse is not large enough to replace Twitter/Reddit (for breadth and depth of content) and it is unlikely to become large enough any time soon.

      Fortunately, Mastodon does not push an algorithmic feed on me so I can follow people I want to hear from on Threads without having to put up with the bullshit that comes from being on Threads.

      I recognise that the lack of moderation on Threads means that instances which do federate may be faced with a lot of extra work and not all instances will be up for that, and that’s totally fair.

      But it would be good if there was at least one instance which allowed access to people on Threads without having to make an account with Meta.

      FWIW it’s not a coincidence that Threads didn’t make federation possible until after they’d found a legal way to launch in the EU. They knew that if they federated first, the Fediverse would get a lot of EU users who would otherwise have joined Threads. I don’t think the entire Fediverse should cut itself off from Threads when many of its users might also like access to the feed without the Meta bullshit piled on top.

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      This “ads as posts” thing was one of my two biggest concerns with Threads federation. I really hoped I would turn out to be wrong about it, but at the end of the day, both Facebook itself, as well as big social media influencers, rely on advertising for their profits. For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently. On lemm.ee, “no advertising” has been one of our 4 core instance rules from the start.

      My other major concern was Threads having the ability to enforce their feed algorithms on federated instances through sheer number of votes on things they show in their feeds, but judging by what you’re saying about the engagement, at least that concern has not materialized (at least yet).

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        For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently.

        It will never be a good idea to federated with threads. There will always be some kind of malicious behavior from threads that makes federating with threads a terrible idea.

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    6 months ago

    To add to that. Meta has been found to have used a man in the middle attack to gain acces to data from competing services. Intercepting and selling that user data before it got encrypted. They literally are evil. Do not let them in.

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      6 months ago
      1. Because that is not a decision Lemmy can make; thousands of different instances running Lemmy can choose to do whatever its admins choose to do.

      2. Because (AFAIK) Lemmy instances cannot federate with Threads anyway.

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        Because (AFAIK) Lemmy instances cannot federate with Threads anyway

        This is not true, Lemmy can federate with Threads in the same way it federates with Mastodon. It’s all ActivityPub underneath.

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          There’s very little point telling me it is possible without telling me how. I have tried and failed with kBin and I don’t even know where to start with Lemmy.

          I would like to follow Cory Doctorow’s Mastodon account on Lemmy. Could you explain how?

          Thanks,

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            I would like to follow Cory Doctorow’s Mastodon account on Lemmy. Could you explain how?

            This specific case is not possible, Lemmy doesn’t support following individual users. It’s not clear how you would see their posts, as posts are only visible when made in specific communities.

            But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t federate in other ways.